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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Venegas Munoz,
	Jose Carlos" <jose.carlos.venegas.munoz@intel.com>,
	"cdupontd@redhat.com" <cdupontd@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
	"Shinde, Archana M" <archana.m.shinde@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] virtiofs vs 9p performance(Re: tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:01:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929140136.GD220516@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOssrKcVNs=uiU2U1-ScowogFan8W=iw7kyTCnaz-vL8r9gLmw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 03:49:04PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:18 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > - virtiofs cache=none mode is faster than cache=auto mode for this
> >   workload.
> 
> Not sure why.  One cause could be that readahead is not perfect at
> detecting the random pattern.  Could we compare total I/O on the
> server vs. total I/O by fio?

Hi Miklos,

I will instrument virtiosd code to figure out total I/O.

One more potential issue I am staring at is refreshing the attrs on 
READ if fc->auto_inval_data is set.

fuse_cache_read_iter() {
        /*
         * In auto invalidate mode, always update attributes on read.
         * Otherwise, only update if we attempt to read past EOF (to ensure
         * i_size is up to date).
         */
        if (fc->auto_inval_data ||
            (iocb->ki_pos + iov_iter_count(to) > i_size_read(inode))) {
                int err;
                err = fuse_update_attributes(inode, iocb->ki_filp);
                if (err)
                        return err;
        }
}

Given this is a mixed READ/WRITE workload, every WRITE will invalidate
attrs. And next READ will first do GETATTR() from server (and potentially
invalidate page cache) before doing READ.

This sounds suboptimal especially from the point of view of WRITEs
done by this client itself. I mean if another client has modified
the file, then doing GETATTR after a second makes sense. But there
should be some optimization to make sure our own WRITEs don't end
up doing GETATTR and invalidate page cache (because cache contents
are still valid).

I disabled ->auto_invalid_data and that seemed to result in 8-10%
gain in performance for this workload.

Thanks
Vivek



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Venegas Munoz,
	Jose Carlos" <jose.carlos.venegas.munoz@intel.com>,
	"cdupontd@redhat.com" <cdupontd@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
	"Shinde, Archana M" <archana.m.shinde@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] virtiofs vs 9p performance(Re: tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:01:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929140136.GD220516@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOssrKcVNs=uiU2U1-ScowogFan8W=iw7kyTCnaz-vL8r9gLmw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 03:49:04PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:18 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > - virtiofs cache=none mode is faster than cache=auto mode for this
> >   workload.
> 
> Not sure why.  One cause could be that readahead is not perfect at
> detecting the random pattern.  Could we compare total I/O on the
> server vs. total I/O by fio?

Hi Miklos,

I will instrument virtiosd code to figure out total I/O.

One more potential issue I am staring at is refreshing the attrs on 
READ if fc->auto_inval_data is set.

fuse_cache_read_iter() {
        /*
         * In auto invalidate mode, always update attributes on read.
         * Otherwise, only update if we attempt to read past EOF (to ensure
         * i_size is up to date).
         */
        if (fc->auto_inval_data ||
            (iocb->ki_pos + iov_iter_count(to) > i_size_read(inode))) {
                int err;
                err = fuse_update_attributes(inode, iocb->ki_filp);
                if (err)
                        return err;
        }
}

Given this is a mixed READ/WRITE workload, every WRITE will invalidate
attrs. And next READ will first do GETATTR() from server (and potentially
invalidate page cache) before doing READ.

This sounds suboptimal especially from the point of view of WRITEs
done by this client itself. I mean if another client has modified
the file, then doing GETATTR after a second makes sense. But there
should be some optimization to make sure our own WRITEs don't end
up doing GETATTR and invalidate page cache (because cache contents
are still valid).

I disabled ->auto_invalid_data and that seemed to result in 8-10%
gain in performance for this workload.

Thanks
Vivek


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-29 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 21:34 tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance Vivek Goyal
2020-09-18 21:34 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21  8:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-09-21  8:39   ` [Virtio-fs] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-09-21 13:39   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 13:39     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 16:57     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-09-21 16:57       ` [Virtio-fs] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-09-21  8:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21  8:50   ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21 13:35   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 13:35     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 14:08     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-21 14:08       ` [Virtio-fs] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-09-21 15:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21 15:32   ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-22 10:25   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-22 10:25     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-22 17:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-22 17:47       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-24 21:33       ` Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-09-24 21:33         ` [Virtio-fs] " Venegas Munoz, Jose Carlos
2020-09-24 22:10         ` virtiofs vs 9p performance(Re: tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance) Vivek Goyal
2020-09-24 22:10           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25  8:06           ` virtiofs vs 9p performance Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25  8:06             ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 13:13             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25 13:13               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25 15:47               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 15:47                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-19 16:08             ` Can not set high msize with virtio-9p (Was: Re: virtiofs vs 9p performance) Vivek Goyal
2021-02-19 16:08               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-02-19 17:33               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-19 17:33                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-19 19:01                 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-02-19 19:01                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2021-02-20 15:38                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-20 15:38                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-22 12:18                     ` Greg Kurz
2021-02-22 12:18                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Greg Kurz
2021-02-22 15:08                       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-22 15:08                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-22 17:11                         ` Greg Kurz
2021-02-22 17:11                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Greg Kurz
2021-02-23 13:39                           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-23 13:39                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-23 14:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 14:07                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 15:16                               ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-24 15:16                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-24 15:43                                 ` Dominique Martinet
2021-02-24 15:43                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Dominique Martinet
2021-02-26 13:49                                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-26 13:49                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-02-27  0:03                                     ` Dominique Martinet
2021-02-27  0:03                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Dominique Martinet
2021-03-03 14:04                                       ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-03-03 14:04                                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2021-03-03 14:50                                         ` Dominique Martinet
2021-03-03 14:50                                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Dominique Martinet
2021-03-05 14:57                                           ` Christian Schoenebeck
2021-03-05 14:57                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 12:41           ` virtiofs vs 9p performance(Re: tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance) Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 12:41             ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 13:04             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 13:04               ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 13:05               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 13:05                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 16:05                 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 16:05                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 16:33                   ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 16:33                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-25 18:51                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 18:51                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-27 12:14                     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-27 12:14                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-29 13:03                       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:03                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:28                         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-29 13:28                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-29 13:49                           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:49                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:59                             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-29 13:59                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Christian Schoenebeck
2020-09-29 13:17             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:17               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 13:49               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-09-29 13:49                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-09-29 14:01                 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2020-09-29 14:01                   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 14:54                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-09-29 14:54                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-09-29 15:28                 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-29 15:28                   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25 12:11       ` tools/virtiofs: Multi threading seems to hurt performance Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 12:11         ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-25 13:11         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25 13:11           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 20:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-21 20:16   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-22 11:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-22 11:09     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-22 22:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-22 22:56       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-09-23 12:50 ` Chirantan Ekbote
2020-09-23 12:59   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-09-25 11:35   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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