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From: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau@merlins.org>
To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:51:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201229155159.GG23389@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20200529180315.GA18804@merlins.org

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it
> > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever.
> 
> The gpu suspends with runtime pm. And then gets woken up for some
> reason (could be something quite silly, like lspci, or could be
> something explicitly checking connectors, etc). Repeat.

Ah, fair point.  Could it be powertop even?
How would I go towards tracing that?
Sounds like this would be a problem with all chips if userspace is able
to wake them up every second or two with a probe. Now I wonder what
broken userspace I have that could be doing this.
 
> Display offload usually requires acceleration -- the copies are done
> using the DMA engine. Please make sure that you have firmware
> available (and a new enough mesa). The errors suggest that you don't
> have firmware available at the time that nouveau loads. Depending on
> your setup, that might mean the firmware has to be built into the
> kernel, or available in initramfs. (Or just regular filesystem if you
> don't use a complicated boot sequence. But many people go with distro
> defaults, which do have this complexity.)

Hi Ilia, thanks for your answer.

Do you think that could be a reason why the boot would hang for 2 full minutes at every
boot ever since I upgraded to 5.5?

Also, without wanting to sound like a full newbie, where is that
firmware you're talking about? In my kernel source?

Here's what I do have:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# dpkggrep nouveau
libdrm-nouveau2:amd64				install
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau			install

no nouveau-firmware package in debian:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# apt-cache search nouveau
bumblebee - NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux
libdrm-nouveau2 - Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
xfonts-jmk - Jim Knoble's character-cell fonts for X
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver

No firmware file on my disk:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# find /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/ /lib/firmware/ |grep nouveau
/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau
/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
sauron:/usr/local/bin# 

The kernel module is in my initrd:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# dd if=/boot/initrd.img-5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817 bs=2966528  skip=1 | gunzip | cpio -tdv | grep nouveau
drwxr-xr-x   1 root     root            0 Nov 30 15:40 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      3691385 Nov 30 15:35 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
17+1 records in
17+1 records out
52566778 bytes (53 MB, 50 MiB) copied, 1.69708 s, 31.0 MB/s

What am I supposed to do/check next?

Note that ultimately I only need nouveau not to hang my boot 2mn and do
PM so that the nvidia chip goes to sleep since I don't use it.

Thanks,
Marc
-- 
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
 
Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/                       | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Mika Westerberg
	<mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:51:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201229155159.GG23389@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20200529180315.GA18804@merlins.org

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Ilia Mirkin wrote:
> > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it
> > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever.
> 
> The gpu suspends with runtime pm. And then gets woken up for some
> reason (could be something quite silly, like lspci, or could be
> something explicitly checking connectors, etc). Repeat.

Ah, fair point.  Could it be powertop even?
How would I go towards tracing that?
Sounds like this would be a problem with all chips if userspace is able
to wake them up every second or two with a probe. Now I wonder what
broken userspace I have that could be doing this.
 
> Display offload usually requires acceleration -- the copies are done
> using the DMA engine. Please make sure that you have firmware
> available (and a new enough mesa). The errors suggest that you don't
> have firmware available at the time that nouveau loads. Depending on
> your setup, that might mean the firmware has to be built into the
> kernel, or available in initramfs. (Or just regular filesystem if you
> don't use a complicated boot sequence. But many people go with distro
> defaults, which do have this complexity.)

Hi Ilia, thanks for your answer.

Do you think that could be a reason why the boot would hang for 2 full minutes at every
boot ever since I upgraded to 5.5?

Also, without wanting to sound like a full newbie, where is that
firmware you're talking about? In my kernel source?

Here's what I do have:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# dpkggrep nouveau
libdrm-nouveau2:amd64				install
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau			install

no nouveau-firmware package in debian:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# apt-cache search nouveau
bumblebee - NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux
libdrm-nouveau2 - Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
xfonts-jmk - Jim Knoble's character-cell fonts for X
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver

No firmware file on my disk:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# find /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/ /lib/firmware/ |grep nouveau
/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau
/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
sauron:/usr/local/bin# 

The kernel module is in my initrd:
sauron:/usr/local/bin# dd if=/boot/initrd.img-5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817 bs=2966528  skip=1 | gunzip | cpio -tdv | grep nouveau
drwxr-xr-x   1 root     root            0 Nov 30 15:40 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau
-rw-r--r--   1 root     root      3691385 Nov 30 15:35 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
17+1 records in
17+1 records out
52566778 bytes (53 MB, 50 MiB) copied, 1.69708 s, 31.0 MB/s

What am I supposed to do/check next?

Note that ultimately I only need nouveau not to hang my boot 2mn and do
PM so that the nvidia chip goes to sleep since I don't use it.

Thanks,
Marc
-- 
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
 
Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/                       | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-29 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI: Introduce pcie_wait_for_link_delay() Mika Westerberg
2020-08-08 20:22   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-08 20:23     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-09 16:31     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:18     ` pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:18       ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:26       ` Matthias Andree
2020-09-07 19:14       ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 19:14         ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 20:58         ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2020-09-07 20:58           ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-07 23:51           ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 23:51             ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-08  0:29             ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2020-05-29 18:03               ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                 ` <20200529180315.GA18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29 18:53                   ` Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]                     ` <CAKb7Uvhw2EYo1RR-=NGgLO3CU9QTRWchcAw1injffybZbJ-zOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29 19:46                       ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                         ` <20200529194605.GB18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-30 17:32                           ` Karol Herbst
2023-04-19  6:49                         ` [Nouveau] 6.1 still cannot get display on Thinkpad P73Quadro " Marc MERLIN
2023-04-21  5:46                           ` [Nouveau] 6.2 still cannot get hdmi display out on Thinkpad P73 Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile/TU104 Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                       ` <CACO55tsvY0t_z986VVoYCvxuBASdZ+rQcDtZ_dAtQR60NLmQQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-31 18:31                         ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN
2020-12-26 11:12                 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN
2020-12-26 11:12                   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-27 18:28                   ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-27 18:28                     ` Ilia Mirkin
2021-01-27 21:33                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-27 21:33                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 20:59                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 20:59                       ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29  0:56                     ` Marc MERLIN
2021-01-29  0:56                       ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2021-01-29 21:20                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29 21:20                         ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-30  2:04                         ` Marc MERLIN
2021-01-30  2:04                           ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2021-05-05 21:42                           ` [Nouveau] 5.12.1 0010:nvkm_falcon_v1_wait_for_halt+0x8f/0xb9 [nouveau] Marc MERLIN
2021-05-06 14:50                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-25  3:13                               ` Ben Skeggs
2020-12-29 15:51                 ` Marc MERLIN [this message]
2020-12-29 15:51                   ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN
2020-12-29 16:33                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-29 16:33                     ` Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]                     ` <CAKb7UviFP_YVxC4PO7MDNnw6NDrD=3BCGF37umwAfaimjbX9Pw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-12-29 17:47                       ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                         ` <20201229174750.GI23389-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-04 11:49                           ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                             ` <20210104114955.GM32533-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-04 13:28                               ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                                 ` <CACO55tsdG37YKv7FV2er4hRnXk9vmwMbPuPptA+=ZtziWXC2+g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-07 11:49                                   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-30 12:16                       ` ael
2020-09-13 20:15               ` [Nouveau] pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN
2020-09-13 20:15                 ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                 ` <20200913201545.GL2622-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-19 23:18                   ` Marc MERLIN
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-26 14:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 11:28     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 13:42       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 18:06         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 20:16           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-29 11:15             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:27               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:15                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-31 22:31                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-01 11:19                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05  0:00                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05  9:54                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 12:58                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 20:01                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:31                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 15:00                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05 15:28                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 16:10                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:29                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:33     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Matthias Andree
2019-10-04 13:06   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-05  7:34     ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-07  9:32       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-07 15:15         ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-08  9:05           ` Mika Westerberg

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