From: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau@merlins.org> To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu> Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:51:59 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20201229155159.GG23389@merlins.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: 20200529180315.GA18804@merlins.org On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Ilia Mirkin wrote: > > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it > > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever. > > The gpu suspends with runtime pm. And then gets woken up for some > reason (could be something quite silly, like lspci, or could be > something explicitly checking connectors, etc). Repeat. Ah, fair point. Could it be powertop even? How would I go towards tracing that? Sounds like this would be a problem with all chips if userspace is able to wake them up every second or two with a probe. Now I wonder what broken userspace I have that could be doing this. > Display offload usually requires acceleration -- the copies are done > using the DMA engine. Please make sure that you have firmware > available (and a new enough mesa). The errors suggest that you don't > have firmware available at the time that nouveau loads. Depending on > your setup, that might mean the firmware has to be built into the > kernel, or available in initramfs. (Or just regular filesystem if you > don't use a complicated boot sequence. But many people go with distro > defaults, which do have this complexity.) Hi Ilia, thanks for your answer. Do you think that could be a reason why the boot would hang for 2 full minutes at every boot ever since I upgraded to 5.5? Also, without wanting to sound like a full newbie, where is that firmware you're talking about? In my kernel source? Here's what I do have: sauron:/usr/local/bin# dpkggrep nouveau libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau install no nouveau-firmware package in debian: sauron:/usr/local/bin# apt-cache search nouveau bumblebee - NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux libdrm-nouveau2 - Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime xfonts-jmk - Jim Knoble's character-cell fonts for X xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver No firmware file on my disk: sauron:/usr/local/bin# find /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/ /lib/firmware/ |grep nouveau /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko sauron:/usr/local/bin# The kernel module is in my initrd: sauron:/usr/local/bin# dd if=/boot/initrd.img-5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817 bs=2966528 skip=1 | gunzip | cpio -tdv | grep nouveau drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 30 15:40 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3691385 Nov 30 15:35 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko 17+1 records in 17+1 records out 52566778 bytes (53 MB, 50 MiB) copied, 1.69708 s, 31.0 MB/s What am I supposed to do/check next? Note that ultimately I only need nouveau not to hang my boot 2mn and do PM so that the nvidia chip goes to sleep since I don't use it. Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08
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From: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> To: Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> Cc: nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org, Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>, LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, Linux PCI <linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:51:59 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20201229155159.GG23389@merlins.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: 20200529180315.GA18804@merlins.org On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Ilia Mirkin wrote: > > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it > > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever. > > The gpu suspends with runtime pm. And then gets woken up for some > reason (could be something quite silly, like lspci, or could be > something explicitly checking connectors, etc). Repeat. Ah, fair point. Could it be powertop even? How would I go towards tracing that? Sounds like this would be a problem with all chips if userspace is able to wake them up every second or two with a probe. Now I wonder what broken userspace I have that could be doing this. > Display offload usually requires acceleration -- the copies are done > using the DMA engine. Please make sure that you have firmware > available (and a new enough mesa). The errors suggest that you don't > have firmware available at the time that nouveau loads. Depending on > your setup, that might mean the firmware has to be built into the > kernel, or available in initramfs. (Or just regular filesystem if you > don't use a complicated boot sequence. But many people go with distro > defaults, which do have this complexity.) Hi Ilia, thanks for your answer. Do you think that could be a reason why the boot would hang for 2 full minutes at every boot ever since I upgraded to 5.5? Also, without wanting to sound like a full newbie, where is that firmware you're talking about? In my kernel source? Here's what I do have: sauron:/usr/local/bin# dpkggrep nouveau libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau install no nouveau-firmware package in debian: sauron:/usr/local/bin# apt-cache search nouveau bumblebee - NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux libdrm-nouveau2 - Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime xfonts-jmk - Jim Knoble's character-cell fonts for X xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver No firmware file on my disk: sauron:/usr/local/bin# find /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/ /lib/firmware/ |grep nouveau /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau /lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko sauron:/usr/local/bin# The kernel module is in my initrd: sauron:/usr/local/bin# dd if=/boot/initrd.img-5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817 bs=2966528 skip=1 | gunzip | cpio -tdv | grep nouveau drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Nov 30 15:40 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3691385 Nov 30 15:35 usr/lib/modules/5.9.11-amd64-preempt-sysrq-20190817/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko 17+1 records in 17+1 records out 52566778 bytes (53 MB, 50 MiB) copied, 1.69708 s, 31.0 MB/s What am I supposed to do/check next? Note that ultimately I only need nouveau not to hang my boot 2mn and do PM so that the nvidia chip goes to sleep since I don't use it. Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-29 15:53 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-10-04 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Mika Westerberg 2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI: Introduce pcie_wait_for_link_delay() Mika Westerberg 2020-08-08 20:22 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-08-08 20:23 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-08-09 16:31 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-09-06 18:18 ` pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN 2020-09-06 18:18 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-09-06 18:26 ` Matthias Andree 2020-09-07 19:14 ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst 2020-09-07 19:14 ` Karol Herbst 2020-09-07 20:58 ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN 2020-09-07 20:58 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-09-07 23:51 ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst 2020-09-07 23:51 ` Karol Herbst 2020-09-08 0:29 ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN 2020-05-29 18:03 ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <20200529180315.GA18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> 2020-05-29 18:53 ` Ilia Mirkin [not found] ` <CAKb7Uvhw2EYo1RR-=NGgLO3CU9QTRWchcAw1injffybZbJ-zOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2020-05-29 19:46 ` Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <20200529194605.GB18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> 2020-05-30 17:32 ` Karol Herbst 2023-04-19 6:49 ` [Nouveau] 6.1 still cannot get display on Thinkpad P73Quadro " Marc MERLIN 2023-04-21 5:46 ` [Nouveau] 6.2 still cannot get hdmi display out on Thinkpad P73 Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile/TU104 Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <CACO55tsvY0t_z986VVoYCvxuBASdZ+rQcDtZ_dAtQR60NLmQQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2020-05-31 18:31 ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN 2020-12-26 11:12 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN 2020-12-26 11:12 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-12-27 18:28 ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin 2020-12-27 18:28 ` Ilia Mirkin 2021-01-27 21:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-27 21:33 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-28 20:59 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-28 20:59 ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-29 0:56 ` Marc MERLIN 2021-01-29 0:56 ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN 2021-01-29 21:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-29 21:20 ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas 2021-01-30 2:04 ` Marc MERLIN 2021-01-30 2:04 ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN 2021-05-05 21:42 ` [Nouveau] 5.12.1 0010:nvkm_falcon_v1_wait_for_halt+0x8f/0xb9 [nouveau] Marc MERLIN 2021-05-06 14:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2021-05-25 3:13 ` Ben Skeggs 2020-12-29 15:51 ` Marc MERLIN [this message] 2020-12-29 15:51 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN 2020-12-29 16:33 ` Ilia Mirkin 2020-12-29 16:33 ` Ilia Mirkin [not found] ` <CAKb7UviFP_YVxC4PO7MDNnw6NDrD=3BCGF37umwAfaimjbX9Pw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2020-12-29 17:47 ` Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <20201229174750.GI23389-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> 2021-01-04 11:49 ` Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <20210104114955.GM32533-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> 2021-01-04 13:28 ` Karol Herbst [not found] ` <CACO55tsdG37YKv7FV2er4hRnXk9vmwMbPuPptA+=ZtziWXC2+g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2021-01-07 11:49 ` Marc MERLIN 2020-12-30 12:16 ` ael 2020-09-13 20:15 ` [Nouveau] pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN 2020-09-13 20:15 ` Marc MERLIN [not found] ` <20200913201545.GL2622-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> 2020-09-19 23:18 ` Marc MERLIN 2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec Mika Westerberg 2019-10-26 14:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-10-28 11:28 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-28 13:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-10-28 18:06 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-28 20:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-10-29 11:15 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-29 20:27 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-10-30 11:15 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-31 22:31 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-11-01 11:19 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-11-05 0:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-11-05 9:54 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-11-05 12:58 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-11-05 20:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-11-06 13:31 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-11-05 15:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-11-05 15:28 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-11-05 16:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-11-06 13:29 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-29 20:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2019-10-30 11:33 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-04 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Matthias Andree 2019-10-04 13:06 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-05 7:34 ` Matthias Andree 2019-10-07 9:32 ` Mika Westerberg 2019-10-07 15:15 ` Matthias Andree 2019-10-08 9:05 ` Mika Westerberg
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