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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau@merlins.org>
Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:59:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210128205946.GA27855@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210127213300.GA3046575@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 03:33:02PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > This started with 5.5 and hasn't gotten better since then, despite
> > some reports I tried to send.
> > 
> > As per my previous message:
> > I have a Thinkpad P70 with hybrid graphics.
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107GLM [Quadro M600M] (rev a2)
> > that one works fine, I can use i915 for the main screen, and nouveau to
> > display on the external ports (external ports are only wired to nvidia
> > chip, so it's impossible to use them without turning the nvidia chip
> > on).
> >  
> > I now got a newer P73 also with the same hybrid graphics (setup as such
> > in the bios). It runs fine with i915, and I don't need to use external
> > display with nouveau for now (it almost works, but I only see the mouse
> > cursor on the external screen, no window or anything else can get
> > displayed, very weird).
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU104GLM [Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile / Max-Q] (rev a1)
> >  
> > 
> > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it
> > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if it's nouveau's fault or the kernel's PCI PME's fault, or something else.
> 
> IIUC there are basically two problems:
> 
>   1) A 2 minute delay during boot
>   2) Some sort of event every 2 seconds that kills your battery life
> 
> Your machine doesn't sound unusual, and I haven't seen a flood of
> similar reports, so maybe there's something unusual about your config.
> But I really don't have any guesses for either one.
> 
> It sounds like v5.5 worked fine and you first noticed the slow boot
> problem in v5.8.  We *could* try to bisect it, but I know that's a lot
> of work on your part.
> 
> Grasping for any ideas for the boot delay; could you boot with
> "initcall_debug" and collect your "lsmod" output?  I notice async_tx
> in some of your logs, but I have no idea what it is.  It's from
> crypto, so possibly somewhat unusual?

Another random thought: is there any chance the boot delay could be
related to crypto waiting for entropy?

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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Marc MERLIN <marc_nouveau@merlins.org>
Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:59:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210128205946.GA27855@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210127213300.GA3046575@bjorn-Precision-5520>

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 03:33:02PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 03:12:09AM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > This started with 5.5 and hasn't gotten better since then, despite
> > some reports I tried to send.
> > 
> > As per my previous message:
> > I have a Thinkpad P70 with hybrid graphics.
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107GLM [Quadro M600M] (rev a2)
> > that one works fine, I can use i915 for the main screen, and nouveau to
> > display on the external ports (external ports are only wired to nvidia
> > chip, so it's impossible to use them without turning the nvidia chip
> > on).
> >  
> > I now got a newer P73 also with the same hybrid graphics (setup as such
> > in the bios). It runs fine with i915, and I don't need to use external
> > display with nouveau for now (it almost works, but I only see the mouse
> > cursor on the external screen, no window or anything else can get
> > displayed, very weird).
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU104GLM [Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile / Max-Q] (rev a1)
> >  
> > 
> > after boot, when it gets the right trigger (not sure which ones), it
> > loops on this evern 2 seconds, mostly forever.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if it's nouveau's fault or the kernel's PCI PME's fault, or something else.
> 
> IIUC there are basically two problems:
> 
>   1) A 2 minute delay during boot
>   2) Some sort of event every 2 seconds that kills your battery life
> 
> Your machine doesn't sound unusual, and I haven't seen a flood of
> similar reports, so maybe there's something unusual about your config.
> But I really don't have any guesses for either one.
> 
> It sounds like v5.5 worked fine and you first noticed the slow boot
> problem in v5.8.  We *could* try to bisect it, but I know that's a lot
> of work on your part.
> 
> Grasping for any ideas for the boot delay; could you boot with
> "initcall_debug" and collect your "lsmod" output?  I notice async_tx
> in some of your logs, but I have no idea what it is.  It's from
> crypto, so possibly somewhat unusual?

Another random thought: is there any chance the boot delay could be
related to crypto waiting for entropy?
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI: Introduce pcie_wait_for_link_delay() Mika Westerberg
2020-08-08 20:22   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-08 20:23     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-09 16:31     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:18     ` pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:18       ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:26       ` Matthias Andree
2020-09-07 19:14       ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 19:14         ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 20:58         ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2020-09-07 20:58           ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-07 23:51           ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 23:51             ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-08  0:29             ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2020-05-29 18:03               ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                 ` <20200529180315.GA18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29 18:53                   ` Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]                     ` <CAKb7Uvhw2EYo1RR-=NGgLO3CU9QTRWchcAw1injffybZbJ-zOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29 19:46                       ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                         ` <20200529194605.GB18804-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-30 17:32                           ` Karol Herbst
2023-04-19  6:49                         ` [Nouveau] 6.1 still cannot get display on Thinkpad P73Quadro " Marc MERLIN
2023-04-21  5:46                           ` [Nouveau] 6.2 still cannot get hdmi display out on Thinkpad P73 Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile/TU104 Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                       ` <CACO55tsvY0t_z986VVoYCvxuBASdZ+rQcDtZ_dAtQR60NLmQQw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-31 18:31                         ` 5.5 kernel: using nouveau or something else just long enough to turn off Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile for hybrid graphics? Marc MERLIN
2020-12-26 11:12                 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN
2020-12-26 11:12                   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-27 18:28                   ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-27 18:28                     ` Ilia Mirkin
2021-01-27 21:33                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-27 21:33                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 20:59                     ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2021-01-28 20:59                       ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29  0:56                     ` Marc MERLIN
2021-01-29  0:56                       ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2021-01-29 21:20                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29 21:20                         ` [Nouveau] " Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-30  2:04                         ` Marc MERLIN
2021-01-30  2:04                           ` [Nouveau] " Marc MERLIN
2021-05-05 21:42                           ` [Nouveau] 5.12.1 0010:nvkm_falcon_v1_wait_for_halt+0x8f/0xb9 [nouveau] Marc MERLIN
2021-05-06 14:50                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-25  3:13                               ` Ben Skeggs
2020-12-29 15:51                 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN
2020-12-29 15:51                   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-29 16:33                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2020-12-29 16:33                     ` Ilia Mirkin
     [not found]                     ` <CAKb7UviFP_YVxC4PO7MDNnw6NDrD=3BCGF37umwAfaimjbX9Pw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-12-29 17:47                       ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                         ` <20201229174750.GI23389-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-04 11:49                           ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                             ` <20210104114955.GM32533-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-04 13:28                               ` Karol Herbst
     [not found]                                 ` <CACO55tsdG37YKv7FV2er4hRnXk9vmwMbPuPptA+=ZtziWXC2+g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-01-07 11:49                                   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-30 12:16                       ` ael
2020-09-13 20:15               ` [Nouveau] pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN
2020-09-13 20:15                 ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]                 ` <20200913201545.GL2622-xnduUnryOU1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-19 23:18                   ` Marc MERLIN
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-26 14:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 11:28     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 13:42       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 18:06         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 20:16           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-29 11:15             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:27               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:15                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-31 22:31                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-01 11:19                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05  0:00                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05  9:54                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 12:58                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 20:01                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:31                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 15:00                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05 15:28                             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 16:10                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:29                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:33     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Matthias Andree
2019-10-04 13:06   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-05  7:34     ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-07  9:32       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-07 15:15         ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-08  9:05           ` Mika Westerberg

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