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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yassine Oudjana <y.oudjana@protonmail.com>,
	"ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"kernel-team@android.com" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"vincent.whitchurch@axis.com" <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: cache: Lower ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 (L1_CACHE_BYTES)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:33:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210706133314.GB20327@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59800d6c-364a-f4be-e341-c5b531657ba3@arm.com>

On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:29:07PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2021-07-06 11:26, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 09:26:59AM +0000, Yassine Oudjana wrote:
> > > In-Reply-To: <20210527124356.22367-1-will@kernel.org>
> > > > Reduce ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 bytes and allow the warning/taint to
> > > > indicate if there are machines that unknowingly rely on this.
> > > 
> > > The warning is being triggered on Qualcomm MSM8996, as well as the out-of-spec taint:
> > 
> > Is this booting with ACPI or DT?
> > 
> > > ------------[ cut here ]------------
> > > rtc-pm8xxx 400f000.qcom,spmi:pmic@0:rtc@6000: ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN smaller than CTR_EL0.CWG (64 < 128)
> > > WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1 at arch/arm64/mm/dma-mapping.c:45 arch_setup_dma_ops+0xf8/0x10c
> > [...]
> > > This warning is triggered with nearly every driver probe, not only rtc-pm8xxx.
> > 
> > I have a suspicion none of the reported devices actually do any DMA, so
> > in practice it should be safe but we need to figure out why
> > arch_setup_dma_ops() gets called.
> 
> It gets called because there's no straightforward way to know that a
> platform device *isn't* DMA-capable, so we have to assume they are.
> 
> I would also assume that in a Qcom SoC there really are at least some things
> doing non-coherent DMA :(

Agreed, unless this is a CPU erratum and the line size is being reported for
a cache beyond the PoC, then I think we're going to have to revert the patch
reducing ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN after all.

I can't find much information about the original Kryo core at all...

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Yassine Oudjana <y.oudjana@protonmail.com>,
	"ardb@kernel.org" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"kernel-team@android.com" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 "mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"vincent.whitchurch@axis.com" <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: cache: Lower ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 (L1_CACHE_BYTES)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 14:33:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210706133314.GB20327@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59800d6c-364a-f4be-e341-c5b531657ba3@arm.com>

On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:29:07PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2021-07-06 11:26, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 09:26:59AM +0000, Yassine Oudjana wrote:
> > > In-Reply-To: <20210527124356.22367-1-will@kernel.org>
> > > > Reduce ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 bytes and allow the warning/taint to
> > > > indicate if there are machines that unknowingly rely on this.
> > > 
> > > The warning is being triggered on Qualcomm MSM8996, as well as the out-of-spec taint:
> > 
> > Is this booting with ACPI or DT?
> > 
> > > ------------[ cut here ]------------
> > > rtc-pm8xxx 400f000.qcom,spmi:pmic@0:rtc@6000: ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN smaller than CTR_EL0.CWG (64 < 128)
> > > WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1 at arch/arm64/mm/dma-mapping.c:45 arch_setup_dma_ops+0xf8/0x10c
> > [...]
> > > This warning is triggered with nearly every driver probe, not only rtc-pm8xxx.
> > 
> > I have a suspicion none of the reported devices actually do any DMA, so
> > in practice it should be safe but we need to figure out why
> > arch_setup_dma_ops() gets called.
> 
> It gets called because there's no straightforward way to know that a
> platform device *isn't* DMA-capable, so we have to assume they are.
> 
> I would also assume that in a Qcom SoC there really are at least some things
> doing non-coherent DMA :(

Agreed, unless this is a CPU erratum and the line size is being reported for
a cache beyond the PoC, then I think we're going to have to revert the patch
reducing ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN after all.

I can't find much information about the original Kryo core at all...

Will

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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-27 12:43 [PATCH] arm64: cache: Lower ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN to 64 (L1_CACHE_BYTES) Will Deacon
2021-05-27 13:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-27 13:19 ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-28  9:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-01 10:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-31  5:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-06-01 18:21 ` Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <CGME20210602132541eucas1p17127696041c26c00d1d2f50bef9cfaf0@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2021-06-02 13:25   ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 13:51     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-02 14:09       ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 14:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-02 14:28           ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-02 14:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 12:17               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-04 10:01         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07  9:58           ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-06-07 12:01             ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:08               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:39                 ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 13:39                   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-07 13:56                   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:56                     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 13:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 13:57                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 15:17                     ` Maxime Ripard
2021-06-07 15:17                       ` Maxime Ripard
2021-06-07 15:50                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-07 15:50                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-08  8:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-08  8:57                           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 15:32                     ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-07 15:32                       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-02 14:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-02 14:15         ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-07-06  9:26 ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-06 10:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 10:26     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 13:29     ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 13:29       ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 13:33       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2021-07-06 13:33         ` Will Deacon
2021-07-06 13:44         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 13:44           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 14:21           ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 14:21             ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 14:30           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 14:30             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 14:46             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 14:46               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-07-06 15:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 15:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 17:15                 ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-06 17:15                   ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-06 20:33                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 20:33                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 22:27                     ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-06 22:27                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-07  9:27                       ` Will Deacon
2021-07-07  9:27                         ` Will Deacon
2021-07-07  8:24                     ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-07  8:24                       ` Yassine Oudjana
2021-07-07  9:29                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  9:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07 14:41                         ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-07 14:41                           ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-08 20:59                           ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-08 20:59                             ` Jeffrey Hugo
2021-07-09  8:48                             ` Will Deacon
2021-07-09  8:48                               ` Will Deacon
2021-07-09 17:10                               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-09 17:10                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 16:20             ` Will Deacon
2021-07-06 16:20               ` Will Deacon

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