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From: Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux USB List <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/29] arm64: dts: qcom: Harmonize DWC USB3 DT nodes name
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:48:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210714124807.o22mottsrg3tv6nt@mobilestation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLX_FNvFndEDWtGbFPjSzuAbfqxQE07diBJFZtftwEJX5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 05:07:00PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:10 AM Serge Semin
> <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru> wrote:
> >
> > In accordance with the DWC USB3 bindings the corresponding node
> > name is suppose to comply with the Generic USB HCD DT schema, which
> > requires the USB nodes to have the name acceptable by the regexp:
> > "^usb(@.*)?" . Make sure the "snps,dwc3"-compatible nodes are correctly
> > named.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>
> 

> I know folks like to ignore this, but this patch breaks AOSP on db845c. :(

Sorry to hear that. Alas there is no much can be done about it.
DT-nodes name is a subject of DT-schema convention and as we've finally
unified USB-controller nodes it shouldn't be reverted back. You can
find the final USB-controller bindings in:
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/usb.yaml
It strictly defines to have USB-nodes with names like "usb(@.*)".
Reverting this patch will cause the DT-bindings check procedure
failure. You can also find the naming convention defined in the
latest DT spec:
https://github.com/devicetree-org/devicetree-specification/releases/tag/v0.3

See also device-tree bindings requirements listed in the file:
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-bindings.rst
It says: "DO use node names matching the class of the device. Many
standard names are defined in the DT Spec. If there isn't one,
consider adding it."

> 
> In the exact same way an earlier patch broke HiKey960:
>   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALAqxLWGujgR7p8Vb5S_RimRVYxwm5XF-c4NkKgMH-43wEBaWg@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> (which I still have to carry a revert for).
> 
> I get that this change is useful so more dynamic userland can find
> devices using consistent naming with future kernels (but doesn't the
> dynamic userland have to handle the case for older kernels as well?)
> But for userland that uses static configs, its painful as updating
> userland to use the new node ids then causes older kernels to fail.
> 
> I'm looking into how we might be able to probe and set the property
> dynamically, but AOSP's init system is far more aligned to static
> configs.
> 

As Krzysztof said in
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201221210423.GA2504@kozik-lap/
and Bjorn noted in his response to your email, the only way to solve
the problem is to fix the user-land app so one would be able to deal
with both old and new DT-nodes name. Alternatively you can just
replace the dts with older one, where the name still have
the "dwc3"-prefix.

-Sergey

> This will probably be ignored again, but it would be nice if we could
> have a release where DTS changes don't break userland for one of my
> boards. As it feels like its been awhile.
> 
> thanks
> -john

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux USB List <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Amit Pundir <amit.pundir@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/29] arm64: dts: qcom: Harmonize DWC USB3 DT nodes name
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:48:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210714124807.o22mottsrg3tv6nt@mobilestation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLX_FNvFndEDWtGbFPjSzuAbfqxQE07diBJFZtftwEJX5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John,

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 05:07:00PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 5:10 AM Serge Semin
> <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru> wrote:
> >
> > In accordance with the DWC USB3 bindings the corresponding node
> > name is suppose to comply with the Generic USB HCD DT schema, which
> > requires the USB nodes to have the name acceptable by the regexp:
> > "^usb(@.*)?" . Make sure the "snps,dwc3"-compatible nodes are correctly
> > named.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>
> 

> I know folks like to ignore this, but this patch breaks AOSP on db845c. :(

Sorry to hear that. Alas there is no much can be done about it.
DT-nodes name is a subject of DT-schema convention and as we've finally
unified USB-controller nodes it shouldn't be reverted back. You can
find the final USB-controller bindings in:
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/usb.yaml
It strictly defines to have USB-nodes with names like "usb(@.*)".
Reverting this patch will cause the DT-bindings check procedure
failure. You can also find the naming convention defined in the
latest DT spec:
https://github.com/devicetree-org/devicetree-specification/releases/tag/v0.3

See also device-tree bindings requirements listed in the file:
Documentation/devicetree/bindings/writing-bindings.rst
It says: "DO use node names matching the class of the device. Many
standard names are defined in the DT Spec. If there isn't one,
consider adding it."

> 
> In the exact same way an earlier patch broke HiKey960:
>   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALAqxLWGujgR7p8Vb5S_RimRVYxwm5XF-c4NkKgMH-43wEBaWg@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> (which I still have to carry a revert for).
> 
> I get that this change is useful so more dynamic userland can find
> devices using consistent naming with future kernels (but doesn't the
> dynamic userland have to handle the case for older kernels as well?)
> But for userland that uses static configs, its painful as updating
> userland to use the new node ids then causes older kernels to fail.
> 
> I'm looking into how we might be able to probe and set the property
> dynamically, but AOSP's init system is far more aligned to static
> configs.
> 

As Krzysztof said in
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201221210423.GA2504@kozik-lap/
and Bjorn noted in his response to your email, the only way to solve
the problem is to fix the user-land app so one would be able to deal
with both old and new DT-nodes name. Alternatively you can just
replace the dts with older one, where the name still have
the "dwc3"-prefix.

-Sergey

> This will probably be ignored again, but it would be nice if we could
> have a release where DTS changes don't break userland for one of my
> boards. As it feels like its been awhile.
> 
> thanks
> -john

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Thread overview: 234+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-20 11:59 [PATCH 00/29] dt-bindings: usb: Harmonize xHCI/EHCI/OHCI/DWC3 nodes name Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59 ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59 ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59 ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 01/29] usb: dwc3: Discard synopsys,dwc3 compatibility string Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:15   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-10-20 12:15     ` [PATCH 01/29] usb: dwc3: Discard synopsys, dwc3 " Andy Shevchenko
2020-10-20 12:28     ` [PATCH 01/29] usb: dwc3: Discard synopsys,dwc3 " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:28       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:33       ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:33         ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:27   ` Felipe Balbi
2020-10-20 12:27     ` Felipe Balbi
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 02/29] arm: dts: keystone: Correct DWC USB3 compatible string Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:30   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:30     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 03/29] arm: dts: am437x: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:31   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:31     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-10 13:17     ` Tony Lindgren
2020-11-10 13:17       ` Tony Lindgren
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 04/29] arm: dts: exynos: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-26 18:55   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-26 18:55     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 05/29] arm64: dts: amlogic: meson-g12: Set FL-adj property value Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:44     ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:44       ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:44       ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:46       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:46         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:46         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 13:06   ` Neil Armstrong
2020-10-20 13:06     ` Neil Armstrong
2020-10-20 13:06     ` Neil Armstrong
2020-10-20 19:38   ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-10-20 19:38     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-10-20 19:38     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 06/29] arc: dts: Harmonize EHCI/OHCI DT nodes name Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:35   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:35     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:35     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 07/29] arm: dts: bcm53x: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-22 20:43   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-22 20:43     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 08/29] arm: dts: stm32: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:36   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:36     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-09 10:43     ` Alexandre Torgue
2020-11-09 10:43       ` Alexandre Torgue
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 09/29] arm: dts: hisi-x5hd2: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:36   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:36     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 10/29] arm: dts: lpc18xx: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:37   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:37     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-21 19:02   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2020-10-21 19:02     ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 11/29] arm64: dts: hisi: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:37   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:37     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 12/29] mips: dts: jz47x: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:40   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:40     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 13/29] mips: dts: sead3: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:37   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:37     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 14/29] mips: dts: ralink: mt7628a: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 15/29] powerpc: dts: akebono: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 16/29] arm: dts: bcm5301x: Harmonize xHCI " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-22 20:44   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-22 20:44     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 17/29] arm64: dts: marvell: cp11x: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:40   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:40     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 18/29] arm: dts: marvell: armada-375: Harmonize DWC USB3 " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:43     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 19/29] arm: dts: exynos: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-26 18:56   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-26 18:56     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 20/29] arm: dts: keystone: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:41     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 21/29] arm: dts: ls1021a: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:46   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:46     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-01  7:37   ` Shawn Guo
2020-11-01  7:37     ` Shawn Guo
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 22/29] arm: dts: omap5: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:41     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-10 13:18     ` Tony Lindgren
2020-11-10 13:18       ` Tony Lindgren
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 23/29] arm: dts: stih407-family: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:41     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 24/29] arm64: dts: allwinner: h6: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:42   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:42     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-22 16:13   ` Maxime Ripard
2020-10-22 16:13     ` Maxime Ripard
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 25/29] arm64: dts: apm: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:42   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:42     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 26/29] arm64: dts: exynos: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:43     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-22 11:25     ` Serge Semin
2020-10-22 11:25       ` Serge Semin
2020-10-26 18:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-26 18:57     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 27/29] arm64: dts: layerscape: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:47   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:47     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-01  7:37   ` Shawn Guo
2020-11-01  7:37     ` Shawn Guo
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 28/29] arm64: dts: hi3660: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:44   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:44     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 11:59 ` [PATCH 29/29] arm64: dts: qcom: " Serge Semin
2020-10-20 11:59   ` Serge Semin
2020-10-20 12:44   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-10-20 12:44     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-11-02  7:34   ` Jun Li
2020-11-02  7:34     ` Jun Li
2020-11-03 23:23     ` Bjorn Andersson
2020-11-03 23:23       ` Bjorn Andersson
2020-11-10 12:12       ` Serge Semin
2020-11-10 12:12         ` Serge Semin
2021-07-14  0:07   ` John Stultz
2021-07-14  0:07     ` John Stultz
2021-07-14  2:27     ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-14  2:27       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-21  7:39       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21  7:39         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-14 12:48     ` Serge Semin [this message]
2021-07-14 12:48       ` Serge Semin
2021-07-14 14:59       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-14 14:59         ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-21  7:38       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21  7:38         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 10:02         ` Serge Semin
2021-07-21 10:02           ` Serge Semin
2021-07-21 10:29           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 10:29             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 10:45             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-21 10:45               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-21 11:02               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 11:02                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 11:10                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-21 11:10                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-07-21 11:25                   ` Serge Semin
2021-07-21 11:25                     ` Serge Semin
2021-07-21 18:08                     ` John Stultz
2021-07-21 18:08                       ` John Stultz
2021-07-22 18:12                       ` Serge Semin
2021-07-22 18:12                         ` Serge Semin
2021-07-22 19:17                         ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-22 19:17                           ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-22 20:09                           ` John Stultz
2021-07-22 20:09                             ` John Stultz
2021-07-22 22:09                             ` Serge Semin
2021-07-22 22:09                               ` Serge Semin
2021-08-14  1:06                               ` John Stultz
2021-08-14  1:06                                 ` John Stultz
2021-08-15 19:46                                 ` Serge Semin
2021-08-15 19:46                                   ` Serge Semin
2021-08-18  3:44                                   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-08-18  3:44                                     ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-08-19 11:03                                     ` Serge Semin
2021-08-19 11:03                                       ` Serge Semin
2021-07-22 21:54                           ` Serge Semin
2021-07-22 21:54                             ` Serge Semin
2021-07-23  8:17                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-23  8:17                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21 20:09             ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-21 20:09               ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-23  8:18               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-23  8:18                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-23 14:34                 ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-23 14:34                   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-23 15:54                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-23 15:54                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-23 19:54                     ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-23 19:54                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-07-24  7:50                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-24  7:50                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21  7:37     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-21  7:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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