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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with energy model
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:57:05 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210810092705.ctf43hwhzdepmcrv@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6449a61f-a5fc-0b81-65b2-7bf77b8a71aa@arm.com>

On 10-08-21, 10:17, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Hi Viresh,
> 
> I like the idea, only small comments here in the cover letter.
> 
> On 8/10/21 8:36 AM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > Provide a cpufreq driver flag so drivers can ask the cpufreq core to register
> > with the EM core on their behalf. This allows us to get rid of duplicated code
> > in the drivers and fix the unregistration part as well, which none of the
> > drivers have done until now.
> 
> The EM is never freed for CPUs by design. The unregister function was
> introduced for devfreq devices.

I see. So if a cpufreq driver unregisters and registers again, it will
be required to use the entries created by the registration itself,
right ? Technically speaking, it is better to unregister and free any
related resources and parse everything again.

Lets say, just for fun, I want to test two copies of a cpufreq driver
(providing different set of freq-tables). I build both of them as
modules, insert the first version, remove it, insert the second one.
Ideally, this should just work as expected. But I don't think it will
in this case as you never parse the EM stuff again.

Again, since the routine is there already, I think it is better/fine
to just use it.

> > This would also make the registration with EM core to happen only after policy
> > is fully initialized, and the EM core can do other stuff from in there, like
> > marking frequencies as inefficient (WIP). Though this patchset is useful without
> > that work being done and should be merged nevertheless.
> > 
> > This doesn't update scmi cpufreq driver for now as it is a special case and need
> > to be handled differently. Though we can make it work with this if required.
> 
> The scmi cpufreq driver uses direct EM API, which provides flexibility
> and should stay as is.

Right, so I left it as is for now.

-- 
viresh

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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with energy model
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:57:05 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210810092705.ctf43hwhzdepmcrv@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6449a61f-a5fc-0b81-65b2-7bf77b8a71aa@arm.com>

On 10-08-21, 10:17, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Hi Viresh,
> 
> I like the idea, only small comments here in the cover letter.
> 
> On 8/10/21 8:36 AM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > Provide a cpufreq driver flag so drivers can ask the cpufreq core to register
> > with the EM core on their behalf. This allows us to get rid of duplicated code
> > in the drivers and fix the unregistration part as well, which none of the
> > drivers have done until now.
> 
> The EM is never freed for CPUs by design. The unregister function was
> introduced for devfreq devices.

I see. So if a cpufreq driver unregisters and registers again, it will
be required to use the entries created by the registration itself,
right ? Technically speaking, it is better to unregister and free any
related resources and parse everything again.

Lets say, just for fun, I want to test two copies of a cpufreq driver
(providing different set of freq-tables). I build both of them as
modules, insert the first version, remove it, insert the second one.
Ideally, this should just work as expected. But I don't think it will
in this case as you never parse the EM stuff again.

Again, since the routine is there already, I think it is better/fine
to just use it.

> > This would also make the registration with EM core to happen only after policy
> > is fully initialized, and the EM core can do other stuff from in there, like
> > marking frequencies as inefficient (WIP). Though this patchset is useful without
> > that work being done and should be merged nevertheless.
> > 
> > This doesn't update scmi cpufreq driver for now as it is a special case and need
> > to be handled differently. Though we can make it work with this if required.
> 
> The scmi cpufreq driver uses direct EM API, which provides flexibility
> and should stay as is.

Right, so I left it as is for now.

-- 
viresh

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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with energy model
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 14:57:05 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210810092705.ctf43hwhzdepmcrv@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6449a61f-a5fc-0b81-65b2-7bf77b8a71aa@arm.com>

On 10-08-21, 10:17, Lukasz Luba wrote:
> Hi Viresh,
> 
> I like the idea, only small comments here in the cover letter.
> 
> On 8/10/21 8:36 AM, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > Provide a cpufreq driver flag so drivers can ask the cpufreq core to register
> > with the EM core on their behalf. This allows us to get rid of duplicated code
> > in the drivers and fix the unregistration part as well, which none of the
> > drivers have done until now.
> 
> The EM is never freed for CPUs by design. The unregister function was
> introduced for devfreq devices.

I see. So if a cpufreq driver unregisters and registers again, it will
be required to use the entries created by the registration itself,
right ? Technically speaking, it is better to unregister and free any
related resources and parse everything again.

Lets say, just for fun, I want to test two copies of a cpufreq driver
(providing different set of freq-tables). I build both of them as
modules, insert the first version, remove it, insert the second one.
Ideally, this should just work as expected. But I don't think it will
in this case as you never parse the EM stuff again.

Again, since the routine is there already, I think it is better/fine
to just use it.

> > This would also make the registration with EM core to happen only after policy
> > is fully initialized, and the EM core can do other stuff from in there, like
> > marking frequencies as inefficient (WIP). Though this patchset is useful without
> > that work being done and should be merged nevertheless.
> > 
> > This doesn't update scmi cpufreq driver for now as it is a special case and need
> > to be handled differently. Though we can make it work with this if required.
> 
> The scmi cpufreq driver uses direct EM API, which provides flexibility
> and should stay as is.

Right, so I left it as is for now.

-- 
viresh

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-10  7:36 [PATCH 0/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with energy model Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 1/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with energy model if asked Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  9:36   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:38     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 15:33       ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] cpufreq: dt: Use auto-registration for energy model Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:19   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 3/8] cpufreq: imx6q: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:20   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:20     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 4/8] cpufreq: mediatek: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:20   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:20     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:20     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] cpufreq: omap: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:24   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 6/8] cpufreq: qcom-cpufreq-hw: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:26   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 7/8] cpufreq: scpi: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:27   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:27     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-11  2:40   ` Sudeep Holla
2021-08-11  2:40     ` Sudeep Holla
2021-08-10  7:36 ` [PATCH 8/8] cpufreq: vexpress: " Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  7:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:05   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:05     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:06     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:06       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:11       ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:11         ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:12         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:12           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10 10:30   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 10:30     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-11  2:40   ` Sudeep Holla
2021-08-11  2:40     ` Sudeep Holla
2021-08-10  9:17 ` [PATCH 0/8] cpufreq: Auto-register with " Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:17   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:17   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:27   ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2021-08-10  9:27     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  9:27     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-10  9:35     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:35       ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10  9:35       ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 12:35 ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-10 12:35   ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-10 12:35   ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-10 13:25   ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 13:25     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 13:25     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-08-10 13:53     ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-10 13:53       ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-10 13:53       ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  5:18   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  5:18     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  5:18     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  5:34     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  5:34       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  5:34       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:48       ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:48         ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:48         ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:53         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:53           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:53           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11 10:12           ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11 10:12             ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11 10:12             ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11 10:14             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11 10:14               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11 10:14               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  8:37     ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  8:37       ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  8:37       ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:13       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:13         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:13         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:34         ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:34           ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:34           ` Quentin Perret
2021-08-11  9:36           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:36             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-08-11  9:36             ` Viresh Kumar

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