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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Joakim Zhang <qiangqing.zhang@nxp.com>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"peppe.cavallaro@st.com" <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
	"alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com" <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	"joabreu@synopsys.com" <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"f.fainelli@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"hkallweit1@gmail.com" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: stmmac: fix MAC not working when system resume back with WoL enabled
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 11:49:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210902104943.GD22278@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB8PR04MB67954F4650408025E6D4EE2AE6CE9@DB8PR04MB6795.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 10:26:13AM +0000, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> 
> Hi Russell,
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > Sent: 2021年9月2日 16:32
> > To: Joakim Zhang <qiangqing.zhang@nxp.com>
> > Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>; peppe.cavallaro@st.com;
> > alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com; joabreu@synopsys.com;
> > davem@davemloft.net; kuba@kernel.org; mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com;
> > netdev@vger.kernel.org; andrew@lunn.ch; f.fainelli@gmail.com;
> > hkallweit1@gmail.com; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: stmmac: fix MAC not working when system resume
> > back with WoL enabled
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:28:44AM +0000, Joakim Zhang wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Russell,
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > > > Sent: 2021年9月1日 21:26
> > > > To: Joakim Zhang <qiangqing.zhang@nxp.com>
> > > > Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>; peppe.cavallaro@st.com;
> > > > alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com; joabreu@synopsys.com;
> > > > davem@davemloft.net; kuba@kernel.org; mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com;
> > > > netdev@vger.kernel.org; andrew@lunn.ch; f.fainelli@gmail.com;
> > > > hkallweit1@gmail.com; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@nxp.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: stmmac: fix MAC not working when system
> > > > resume back with WoL enabled
> > > >
> > > > This means you need to have the phy <-> mac link up during suspend,
> > > > and in that case, yes, you do not want to call
> > > > phylink_stop() or phylink_start().
> > >
> > > I have a question here, why need to have the phy<->mac link up during
> > suspend?
> > 
> > You need the link up because I think from reading the code, it is _not_ the PHY
> > that is triggering the wakeup in the configuration you are using, but the MAC.
> > 
> > If the link is down, the PHY can't pass the received packet to the MAC, and the
> > MAC can't recognise the magic packet.
> 
> Per my understanding, if use PHY-based wakeup, PHY should be active, and MAC can be
> totally suspended. When PHY receive the magic packets, it will generate a signal via wakeup
> PIN (PHY seems all have such PIN) to inform SoC, we can use this to wake up the system.
> Please correct me if I misunderstand.

Correct.

> > FEC doesn't have this. FEC relies purely on the PHY detecting the magic packet,
> > which is much more power efficient, because it means the MAC doesn't need
> > to be powered up and operational while the rest of the system is suspended.
> 
> AFAIK, FEC also use the MAC-based wakeup, when enable FEC WoL feature, it will
> keep MAC receive logic active, PHY pass the received packets to MAC, if MAC detects
> the magic packets, it will generate an interrupt to wake up the system.

You're right.

However, as the PHY is not configured for WoL with FEC, and
fec_suspend() unconditionally calls phy_stop() which will place the PHY
into suspend mode. Maybe the PHY driver there has a NULL phydrv->suspend
method? However, I see that at803x has suspend methods (which I believe
is the PHY that gets used with i.MX products) which will power down the
PHY.

So, how does this work with FEC - because right now I can't see it
working, but you say it does.

I think we need to understand how FEC is working here, and we need a
deeper understanding why stmmac isn't working.

I don't have any iMX systems that support WoL, so this isn't something
I can test. (SolidRun's i.MX platforms do not support any kind of
system power down, so suspend isn't supported.)

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01  9:02 Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01  9:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-01 10:21   ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01 12:56     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02  7:01       ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01 15:40     ` Heiner Kallweit
2021-09-02  7:35       ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01  9:21 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-01 10:25   ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01 10:56     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-09-01 11:42       ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-01 13:25         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02  7:28           ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-02  8:32             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-02 10:26               ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-02 10:49                 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-09-02 11:15                   ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-02 12:24                     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-03  6:51                       ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-03  8:01                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03  8:39                           ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-03  9:32                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 11:04                               ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-03 12:01                                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-03 20:12                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-09-06  2:29                                     ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-06  9:34                                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-06 10:41                                         ` Joakim Zhang
2021-09-06 11:21                                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-06 13:23                                             ` Andrew Lunn
2021-09-07  8:52                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-09-06  2:21                                   ` Joakim Zhang

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