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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
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	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 15/30] x86/boot: Port I/O: allow to hook up alternative helpers
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:02:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220302200210.3f7bprgsoy5xnhdh@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6adfbd21-142d-5fe3-41c9-fb2996c9452a@intel.com>

On Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 11:41:53AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 3/2/22 09:42, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > At the very least, please remove the ability for future code to> accidentally bypass 'pio_ops'.  Going forward, are we really expected
> to> just remember to always use pio_ops for i/o?  Or else TDX will just>
> silently break?  That's just not acceptable.
> What did you have in mind here?  The in/out() instruction wrappers could
> be moved to a spot where they're impossible to call directly, for instance.

I guess, though why not just put the pio_ops crud in the inb/outb
wrappers themselves?

> I guess we could get really fancy and use objtool to look for any I/O
> instructions that show up outside of the "official" pio_ops copies.
> That would prevent anyone using inline assembly.

Yeah, there's no easy solution for asm and inline asm.  We would need
something like objtool to enforce the new "non-direct-i/o" policy in
boot code.  But objtool doesn't even validate boot code.

And it looks this patch missed an "outb"?

static inline void io_delay(void)
{
	const u16 DELAY_PORT = 0x80;
	asm volatile("outb %%al,%0" : : "dN" (DELAY_PORT));
}

> In the end, though, TDX *is* a new sub-architecture.  There are lots of
> ways it's going to break silently and nobody will notice on bare metal.
>  SEV is the same way with things like the C (encryption) bit in the page
> tables.  Adding more safeguards sounds like a good idea but, in the end,
> we're going to have to find the non-obvious issues with testing.

Right, but for this case there's no reason to destabilize TDX on
purpose.

-- 
Josh


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-02 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-02 14:27 [PATCHv5 00/30] TDX Guest: TDX core support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 01/30] x86/tdx: Detect running as a TDX guest in early boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-04 15:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-04 15:47     ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-04 16:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-07 22:24         ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 18:22           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 02/30] x86/tdx: Provide common base for SEAMCALL and TDCALL C wrappers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 19:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 12:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-10 14:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 14:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 03/30] x86/tdx: Add __tdx_module_call() and __tdx_hypercall() helper functions Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:03   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 15:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-10 21:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 21:48       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-15 15:56         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-12 10:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 04/30] x86/tdx: Extend the confidential computing API to support TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:17   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 16:01     ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 18:36       ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 23:51         ` [PATCHv5.2 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10  0:07           ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-15 19:41           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 05/30] x86/tdx: Exclude shared bit from __PHYSICAL_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 06/30] x86/traps: Refactor exc_general_protection() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:18   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 07/30] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:29   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 08/30] x86/tdx: Add HLT support for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 09/30] x86/tdx: Add MSR " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 10/30] x86/tdx: Handle CPUID via #VE Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:33   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 16:15     ` [PATCH] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 11/30] x86/tdx: Handle in-kernel MMIO Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:26   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10  0:51     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10  1:06       ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 16:48         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 17:53           ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-11 17:18             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-11 17:22               ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-11 18:01               ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 12/30] x86/tdx: Detect TDX at early kernel decompression time Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07 22:27   ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 13/30] x86: Adjust types used in port I/O helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 14/30] x86: Consolidate " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 15/30] x86/boot: Port I/O: allow to hook up alternative helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 17:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-02 19:41     ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 20:02       ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 16/30] x86/boot: Port I/O: add decompression-time support for TDX Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 17/30] x86/tdx: Port I/O: add runtime hypercalls Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:30   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 18/30] x86/tdx: Port I/O: add early boot support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 19/30] x86/tdx: Wire up KVM hypercalls Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 20/30] x86/boot: Add a trampoline for booting APs via firmware handoff Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 21/30] x86/acpi, x86/boot: Add multiprocessor wake-up support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 22/30] x86/boot: Set CR0.NE early and keep it set during the boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:37   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 23/30] x86/boot: Avoid #VE during boot for TDX platforms Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07  9:29   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-07 22:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08  1:19       ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-08 16:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07 22:36     ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 24/30] x86/topology: Disable CPU online/offline control for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 25/30] x86/tdx: Make pages shared in ioremap() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 22:02   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 26/30] x86/mm/cpa: Add support for TDX shared memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 19:44   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 27/30] x86/kvm: Use bounce buffers for TD guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 20:07   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 14:29     ` Tom Lendacky
2022-03-10 14:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 28/30] x86/tdx: ioapic: Add shared bit for IOAPIC base address Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 20:39   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 29/30] ACPICA: Avoid cache flush inside virtual machines Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 16:13   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-09 20:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 30/30] Documentation/x86: Document TDX kernel architecture Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 21:49   ` Dave Hansen

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