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From: Kuldeep Singh <singh.kuldeep87k@gmail.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] dt-bindings: timer: Document arm, cortex-a7-timer in arch timer
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:55:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220317212508.GB99538@9a2d8922b8f1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558f0c92-c499-daca-e1ad-2b16137f8c06@arm.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:25:12PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2022-03-17 19:15, Kuldeep Singh wrote:
> > Renesas RZ/N1D platform uses compatible "arm,cortex-a7-timer" in
> > conjugation with "arm,armv7-timer". Since, initial entry is not
> > documented, it start raising dtbs_check warnings.
> > 
> > ['arm,cortex-a7-timer', 'arm,armv7-timer'] is too long
> > 'arm,cortex-a7-timer' is not one of ['arm,armv7-timer', 'arm,armv8-timer']
> > 'arm,cortex-a7-timer' is not one of ['arm,cortex-a15-timer']
> > 
> > Document this compatible to address it. The motivation to add this
> > change is taken from an already existing entry "arm,cortex-a15-timer".
> > Please note, this will not hurt any arch timer users.
> 
> Eh, if it's never been documented or supported, I say just get rid of it.
> The arch timer interface is by definition part of a CPU, and we can tell
> what the CPU is by reading its ID registers. Indeed that's how the driver
> handles the non-zero number of CPU-specific errata that already exist - we
> don't need compatibles for that.
> 
> In some ways it might have been nice to have *SoC-specific* compatibles
> given the difficulty some integrators seem to have had in wiring up a stable
> count *to* the interface, but it's not like they could be magically added to
> already-deployed DTs after a bug is discovered, and nor could we have
> mandated them from day 1 just in case and subsequently maintained a binding
> that is just an ever-growing list of every SoC. Oh well.

Robin, A similar discussion was already done on v1 thread. Please see
below for details:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20220317065925.GA9158@9a2d8922b8f1/
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/726bde76-d792-febf-d364-6eedeb748c3b@canonical.com/

And final outcome of discussion turns out to add this compatible string.

I see people with different set of perspective in regard to whether keep
compatible string or not. We should have some sort of evidences to
support claims so that next time when similar situation arises, we'll be
aware beforehand how to proceed.

- Kuldeep
> 
> Robin.
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Kuldeep Singh <singh.kuldeep87k@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml | 1 +
> >   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > index ba2910f0a7b2..ea390e5df71d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ properties:
> >             - arm,armv8-timer
> >         - items:
> >             - enum:
> > +              - arm,cortex-a7-timer
> >                 - arm,cortex-a15-timer
> >             - const: arm,armv7-timer

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From: Kuldeep Singh <singh.kuldeep87k@gmail.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] dt-bindings: timer: Document arm, cortex-a7-timer in arch timer
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:55:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220317212508.GB99538@9a2d8922b8f1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558f0c92-c499-daca-e1ad-2b16137f8c06@arm.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:25:12PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2022-03-17 19:15, Kuldeep Singh wrote:
> > Renesas RZ/N1D platform uses compatible "arm,cortex-a7-timer" in
> > conjugation with "arm,armv7-timer". Since, initial entry is not
> > documented, it start raising dtbs_check warnings.
> > 
> > ['arm,cortex-a7-timer', 'arm,armv7-timer'] is too long
> > 'arm,cortex-a7-timer' is not one of ['arm,armv7-timer', 'arm,armv8-timer']
> > 'arm,cortex-a7-timer' is not one of ['arm,cortex-a15-timer']
> > 
> > Document this compatible to address it. The motivation to add this
> > change is taken from an already existing entry "arm,cortex-a15-timer".
> > Please note, this will not hurt any arch timer users.
> 
> Eh, if it's never been documented or supported, I say just get rid of it.
> The arch timer interface is by definition part of a CPU, and we can tell
> what the CPU is by reading its ID registers. Indeed that's how the driver
> handles the non-zero number of CPU-specific errata that already exist - we
> don't need compatibles for that.
> 
> In some ways it might have been nice to have *SoC-specific* compatibles
> given the difficulty some integrators seem to have had in wiring up a stable
> count *to* the interface, but it's not like they could be magically added to
> already-deployed DTs after a bug is discovered, and nor could we have
> mandated them from day 1 just in case and subsequently maintained a binding
> that is just an ever-growing list of every SoC. Oh well.

Robin, A similar discussion was already done on v1 thread. Please see
below for details:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20220317065925.GA9158@9a2d8922b8f1/
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/726bde76-d792-febf-d364-6eedeb748c3b@canonical.com/

And final outcome of discussion turns out to add this compatible string.

I see people with different set of perspective in regard to whether keep
compatible string or not. We should have some sort of evidences to
support claims so that next time when similar situation arises, we'll be
aware beforehand how to proceed.

- Kuldeep
> 
> Robin.
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Kuldeep Singh <singh.kuldeep87k@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml | 1 +
> >   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > index ba2910f0a7b2..ea390e5df71d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/timer/arm,arch_timer.yaml
> > @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ properties:
> >             - arm,armv8-timer
> >         - items:
> >             - enum:
> > +              - arm,cortex-a7-timer
> >                 - arm,cortex-a15-timer
> >             - const: arm,armv7-timer

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-17 19:15 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix for arch timer users Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15 ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: timer: Rearrange compatible entries of arch timer Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15   ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] dt-bindings: timer: Document arm,cortex-a7-timer in " Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] dt-bindings: timer: Document arm, cortex-a7-timer " Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 20:25   ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-17 20:25     ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-17 21:25     ` Kuldeep Singh [this message]
2022-03-17 21:25       ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-20 18:47       ` Rob Herring
2022-03-20 18:47         ` Rob Herring
2022-03-21 11:52         ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-21 11:52           ` Robin Murphy
2022-03-23 18:35           ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-23 18:35             ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-25 21:23             ` Rob Herring
2022-03-25 21:23               ` Rob Herring
2022-04-11 12:35         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-11 12:35           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ARM: dts: aspeed: Remove arch timer clocks property Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:15   ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 19:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-03-17 19:54     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-03-17 21:10     ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 21:10       ` Kuldeep Singh
2022-03-17 21:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-03-17 21:46         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-03-18  6:18         ` Joel Stanley
2022-03-18  6:18           ` Joel Stanley
2022-03-18 13:44   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-03-18 13:44     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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