From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> Cc: "Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@rothwell.id.au>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "Andi Kleen" <ak@linux.intel.com>, "Aneesh Kumar" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>, "Barry Song" <21cnbao@gmail.com>, "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, "Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, "Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Jesse Barnes" <jsbarnes@google.com>, "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>, "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>, "Michael Larabel" <Michael@michaellarabel.com>, "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>, "Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>, "Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>, "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>, "Ying Huang" <ying.huang@intel.com>, "Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "Kernel Page Reclaim v2" <page-reclaim@google.com>, "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>, "Brian Geffon" <bgeffon@google.com>, "Jan Alexander Steffens" <heftig@archlinux.org>, "Oleksandr Natalenko" <oleksandr@natalenko.name>, "Steven Barrett" <steven@liquorix.net>, "Suleiman Souhlal" <suleiman@google.com>, "Daniel Byrne" <djbyrne@mtu.edu>, "Donald Carr" <d@chaos-reins.com>, "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger@applied-asynchrony.com>, "Konstantin Kharlamov" <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>, "Shuang Zhai" <szhai2@cs.rochester.edu>, "Sofia Trinh" <sofia.trinh@edi.works>, "Vaibhav Jain" <vaibhav@linux.ibm.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:42:41 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20220426164241.99e6a283c371ed75fa5c12a0@linux-foundation.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufaeNzDJnDqatHe0MwsN-D6M_tw6JX2UBJFc+JpZNP86hQ@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:39:07 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 8:16 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 21:15:17 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: > > > > > Evictable pages are divided into multiple generations for each lruvec. > > > The youngest generation number is stored in lrugen->max_seq for both > > > anon and file types as they are aged on an equal footing. The oldest > > > generation numbers are stored in lrugen->min_seq[] separately for anon > > > and file types as clean file pages can be evicted regardless of swap > > > constraints. These three variables are monotonically increasing. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > +static inline bool lru_gen_del_folio(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio, bool reclaiming) > > > > There's a lot of function inlining here. Fortunately the compiler will > > ignore it all, because some of it looks wrong. Please review (and > > remeasure!). If inlining is reqlly justified, use __always_inline, and > > document the reasons for doing so. > > I totally expect modern compilers to make better decisions than I do. > And personally, I'd never use __always_inline; instead, I'd strongly > recommend FDO/LTO. My (badly expressed) point is that there's a lot of inlining of large functions here. For example, lru_gen_add_folio() is huge and has 4(?) call sites. This may well produce slower code due to the icache footprint. Experiment: moving lru_gen_del_folio() into mm/vmscan.c shrinks that file's .text from 80612 bytes to 78956. I tend to think that out-of-line regular old C functions should be the default and that the code should be inlined only when a clear benefit is demonstrable, or has at least been seriously thought about. > > > --- a/mm/Kconfig > > > +++ b/mm/Kconfig > > > @@ -909,6 +909,14 @@ config ANON_VMA_NAME > > > area from being merged with adjacent virtual memory areas due to the > > > difference in their name. > > > > > > +config LRU_GEN > > > + bool "Multi-Gen LRU" > > > + depends on MMU > > > + # the following options can use up the spare bits in page flags > > > + depends on !MAXSMP && (64BIT || !SPARSEMEM || SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP) > > > + help > > > + A high performance LRU implementation to overcommit memory. > > > + > > > source "mm/damon/Kconfig" > > > > This is a problem. I had to jump through hoops just to be able to > > compile-test this. Turns out I had to figure out how to disable > > MAXSMP. > > > > Can we please figure out a way to ensure that more testers are at least > > compile testing this? Allnoconfig, defconfig, allyesconfig, allmodconfig. > > > > Also, I suggest that we actually make MGLRU the default while in linux-next. > > The !MAXSMP is to work around [1], which I haven't had the time to > fix. That BUILD_BUG_ON() shouldn't assert sizeof(struct page) == 64 > since the true size depends on WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL as well as > LAST_CPUPID_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS. My plan is here [2]. > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190905154603.10349-4-aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com/ > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/Ygl1Gf+ATBuI%2Fm2q@google.com/ OK, thanks. This is fairly urgent for -next and -rc inclusion. If practically nobody is compiling the feature then practically nobody is testing it. Let's come up with a way to improves the expected coverage by a lot.
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> Cc: "Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@rothwell.id.au>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, "Andi Kleen" <ak@linux.intel.com>, "Aneesh Kumar" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>, "Barry Song" <21cnbao@gmail.com>, "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, "Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, "Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Jesse Barnes" <jsbarnes@google.com>, "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>, "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>, "Michael Larabel" <Michael@michaellarabel.com>, "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>, "Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>, "Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>, "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>, "Ying Huang" <ying.huang@intel.com>, "Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "Kernel Page Reclaim v2" <page-reclaim@google.com>, "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>, "Brian Geffon" <bgeffon@google.com>, "Jan Alexander Steffens" <heftig@archlinux.org>, "Oleksandr Natalenko" <oleksandr@natalenko.name>, "Steven Barrett" <steven@liquorix.net>, "Suleiman Souhlal" <suleiman@google.com>, "Daniel Byrne" <djbyrne@mtu.edu>, "Donald Carr" <d@chaos-reins.com>, "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger@applied-asynchrony.com>, "Konstantin Kharlamov" <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>, "Shuang Zhai" <szhai2@cs.rochester.edu>, "Sofia Trinh" <sofia.trinh@edi.works>, "Vaibhav Jain" <vaibhav@linux.ibm.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:42:41 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20220426164241.99e6a283c371ed75fa5c12a0@linux-foundation.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufaeNzDJnDqatHe0MwsN-D6M_tw6JX2UBJFc+JpZNP86hQ@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:39:07 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 8:16 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 21:15:17 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: > > > > > Evictable pages are divided into multiple generations for each lruvec. > > > The youngest generation number is stored in lrugen->max_seq for both > > > anon and file types as they are aged on an equal footing. The oldest > > > generation numbers are stored in lrugen->min_seq[] separately for anon > > > and file types as clean file pages can be evicted regardless of swap > > > constraints. These three variables are monotonically increasing. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > +static inline bool lru_gen_del_folio(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio, bool reclaiming) > > > > There's a lot of function inlining here. Fortunately the compiler will > > ignore it all, because some of it looks wrong. Please review (and > > remeasure!). If inlining is reqlly justified, use __always_inline, and > > document the reasons for doing so. > > I totally expect modern compilers to make better decisions than I do. > And personally, I'd never use __always_inline; instead, I'd strongly > recommend FDO/LTO. My (badly expressed) point is that there's a lot of inlining of large functions here. For example, lru_gen_add_folio() is huge and has 4(?) call sites. This may well produce slower code due to the icache footprint. Experiment: moving lru_gen_del_folio() into mm/vmscan.c shrinks that file's .text from 80612 bytes to 78956. I tend to think that out-of-line regular old C functions should be the default and that the code should be inlined only when a clear benefit is demonstrable, or has at least been seriously thought about. > > > --- a/mm/Kconfig > > > +++ b/mm/Kconfig > > > @@ -909,6 +909,14 @@ config ANON_VMA_NAME > > > area from being merged with adjacent virtual memory areas due to the > > > difference in their name. > > > > > > +config LRU_GEN > > > + bool "Multi-Gen LRU" > > > + depends on MMU > > > + # the following options can use up the spare bits in page flags > > > + depends on !MAXSMP && (64BIT || !SPARSEMEM || SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP) > > > + help > > > + A high performance LRU implementation to overcommit memory. > > > + > > > source "mm/damon/Kconfig" > > > > This is a problem. I had to jump through hoops just to be able to > > compile-test this. Turns out I had to figure out how to disable > > MAXSMP. > > > > Can we please figure out a way to ensure that more testers are at least > > compile testing this? Allnoconfig, defconfig, allyesconfig, allmodconfig. > > > > Also, I suggest that we actually make MGLRU the default while in linux-next. > > The !MAXSMP is to work around [1], which I haven't had the time to > fix. That BUILD_BUG_ON() shouldn't assert sizeof(struct page) == 64 > since the true size depends on WANT_PAGE_VIRTUAL as well as > LAST_CPUPID_NOT_IN_PAGE_FLAGS. My plan is here [2]. > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20190905154603.10349-4-aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com/ > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/Ygl1Gf+ATBuI%2Fm2q@google.com/ OK, thanks. This is fairly urgent for -next and -rc inclusion. If practically nobody is compiling the feature then practically nobody is testing it. Let's come up with a way to improves the expected coverage by a lot. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-26 23:42 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-04-07 3:15 [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 6:48 ` Miaohe Lin 2022-04-16 6:48 ` Miaohe Lin 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 6:50 ` Miaohe Lin 2022-04-16 6:50 ` Miaohe Lin 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 7:06 ` Peter Zijlstra 2022-04-12 7:06 ` Peter Zijlstra 2022-04-20 0:39 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-20 0:39 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-20 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-20 20:07 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-26 22:39 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 22:39 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 23:42 ` Andrew Morton [this message] 2022-04-26 23:42 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-27 1:18 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 1:18 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 1:34 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-27 1:34 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 6:03 ` Barry Song 2022-04-14 6:03 ` Barry Song 2022-04-14 20:36 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 20:36 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 21:39 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-14 21:39 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-14 22:14 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 22:14 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 10:15 ` Barry Song 2022-04-15 10:15 ` Barry Song 2022-04-15 20:17 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 20:17 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 10:26 ` Barry Song 2022-04-15 10:26 ` Barry Song 2022-04-15 20:18 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 20:18 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 11:47 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-14 11:47 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-14 20:53 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-14 20:53 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 2:23 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-15 2:23 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-15 5:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 5:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 6:31 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-15 6:31 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-15 6:44 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 6:44 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 9:27 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-15 9:27 ` Chen Wandun 2022-04-18 9:58 ` Barry Song 2022-04-18 9:58 ` Barry Song 2022-04-19 0:53 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 0:53 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 4:25 ` Barry Song 2022-04-19 4:25 ` Barry Song 2022-04-19 4:36 ` Barry Song 2022-04-19 4:36 ` Barry Song 2022-04-19 22:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 22:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 22:20 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 22:20 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 4:32 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V 2022-04-27 4:32 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V 2022-04-27 4:38 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 4:38 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 5:31 ` Aneesh Kumar K V 2022-04-27 5:31 ` Aneesh Kumar K V 2022-04-27 6:00 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 6:00 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra 2022-04-12 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra 2022-04-15 5:30 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 5:30 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 1:14 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 1:14 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 1:56 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 1:56 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 6:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 6:25 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 19:15 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 19:15 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 20:11 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 20:11 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 21:32 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 21:32 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-15 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-15 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-15 22:57 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 22:57 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-15 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds 2022-04-15 23:24 ` [page-reclaim] " Jesse Barnes 2022-04-15 23:24 ` Jesse Barnes 2022-04-15 23:31 ` Matthew Wilcox 2022-04-15 23:31 ` Matthew Wilcox 2022-04-15 23:37 ` Jesse Barnes 2022-04-15 23:37 ` Jesse Barnes 2022-04-15 23:49 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-15 23:49 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 16:32 ` Justin Forbes 2022-04-16 16:32 ` Justin Forbes 2022-04-19 22:32 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-19 22:32 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-29 14:10 ` zhong jiang 2022-04-29 14:10 ` zhong jiang 2022-04-30 8:34 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-30 8:34 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 20:57 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 20:57 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 22:22 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 22:22 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-27 1:11 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-27 1:11 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-16 0:03 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 0:03 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 4:20 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-16 4:20 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 6:59 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 6:59 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 21:30 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 21:30 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 22:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 22:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 12:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-07 12:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-07 12:51 ` Jonathan Corbet 2022-04-07 12:51 ` Jonathan Corbet 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-16 2:22 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-16 2:22 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:15 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 11:39 ` Huang Shijie 2022-04-07 11:39 ` Huang Shijie 2022-04-07 12:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-07 12:41 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-07 12:52 ` Jonathan Corbet 2022-04-07 12:52 ` Jonathan Corbet 2022-04-08 4:48 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-08 4:48 ` Bagas Sanjaya 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:16 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-26 7:42 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-26 7:42 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:24 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 3:24 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 8:31 ` Stephen Rothwell 2022-04-07 8:31 ` Stephen Rothwell 2022-04-07 9:08 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 9:08 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 9:41 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 9:41 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-07 12:13 ` Stephen Rothwell 2022-04-07 12:13 ` Stephen Rothwell 2022-04-08 2:08 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-08 2:08 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-12 2:15 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-12 2:15 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-14 5:06 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-14 5:06 ` Andrew Morton 2022-04-20 0:50 ` Yu Zhao 2022-04-20 0:50 ` Yu Zhao
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