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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aneesh Kumar <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
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	Kernel Page Reclaim v2 <page-reclaim@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 03:08:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufYdeDV=caQvRv_g0rrPjTm29f0_bCOQJpr+qcFO+vpK6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220407183112.2cb5b627@canb.auug.org.au>

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 2:31 AM Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Yu,
>
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 21:24:27 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can you please include this patchset in linux-next? Git repo for you to fetch:
> >
> > https://linux-mm.googlesource.com/mglru for-linux-next
>
> I get a message saying "This repository is empty. Push to it to show
> branches and history." :-(

Sorry about that

> > My goal is to get additional test coverage before I send a pull
> > request for 5.19 to Linus.
>
> Good idea :-)
>
> > I've explored all avenues, but ultimately I've failed to rally
> > substantial support from the MM stakeholders [1]. There are no pending
> > technical issues against this patchset [2]. What is more concerning
> > are the fundamental disagreements on priorities, methodologies, etc.
> > that are not specific to this patchset and have been hindering our
> > progress as a collective. (Cheers to the mutual dissatisfaction.)
>
> I have not been following the discussion as I am not an mm person, but
> this is not a good sign.
>
> > While we plan to discuss those issues during the LSFMM next month, it
> > doesn't seem reasonable to leave this patchset hanging in the air,
> > since it has reached its maturity a while ago and there are strong
> > demands from downstream kernels as well as a large user base. Thus I
> > sent that pull request to Linus a couple of weeks ago, implying that
> > he would have to make the final decision soon.
> >
> > I hope this gives enough background about what's been going on with
> > this patchset. If you decide to take it and it causes you any
> > troubles, please feel free to yell at me.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220104202227.2903605-1-yuzhao@google.com/
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220326010003.3155137-1-yuzhao@google.com/
>
> I had a look at those threads and I guess things are better that your
> comment above implies.
>
> So, a couple of questions:
>
> Have you done a trial merge with a current linux-next tree to see what
> sort of mess/pain we may already be in?
>
> Is it all stable enough now that it could be sent as a patch series for
> Andrew to include in mmotm (with perhaps just smallish followup patches)?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Stephen Rothwell

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aneesh Kumar <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,  Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Michael Larabel <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	 Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Kernel Page Reclaim v2 <page-reclaim@google.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 03:08:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOUHufYdeDV=caQvRv_g0rrPjTm29f0_bCOQJpr+qcFO+vpK6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220407183112.2cb5b627@canb.auug.org.au>

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 2:31 AM Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Yu,
>
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 21:24:27 -0600 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can you please include this patchset in linux-next? Git repo for you to fetch:
> >
> > https://linux-mm.googlesource.com/mglru for-linux-next
>
> I get a message saying "This repository is empty. Push to it to show
> branches and history." :-(

Sorry about that

> > My goal is to get additional test coverage before I send a pull
> > request for 5.19 to Linus.
>
> Good idea :-)
>
> > I've explored all avenues, but ultimately I've failed to rally
> > substantial support from the MM stakeholders [1]. There are no pending
> > technical issues against this patchset [2]. What is more concerning
> > are the fundamental disagreements on priorities, methodologies, etc.
> > that are not specific to this patchset and have been hindering our
> > progress as a collective. (Cheers to the mutual dissatisfaction.)
>
> I have not been following the discussion as I am not an mm person, but
> this is not a good sign.
>
> > While we plan to discuss those issues during the LSFMM next month, it
> > doesn't seem reasonable to leave this patchset hanging in the air,
> > since it has reached its maturity a while ago and there are strong
> > demands from downstream kernels as well as a large user base. Thus I
> > sent that pull request to Linus a couple of weeks ago, implying that
> > he would have to make the final decision soon.
> >
> > I hope this gives enough background about what's been going on with
> > this patchset. If you decide to take it and it causes you any
> > troubles, please feel free to yell at me.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220104202227.2903605-1-yuzhao@google.com/
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20220326010003.3155137-1-yuzhao@google.com/
>
> I had a look at those threads and I guess things are better that your
> comment above implies.
>
> So, a couple of questions:
>
> Have you done a trial merge with a current linux-next tree to see what
> sort of mess/pain we may already be in?
>
> Is it all stable enough now that it could be sent as a patch series for
> Andrew to include in mmotm (with perhaps just smallish followup patches)?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Stephen Rothwell

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-07  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 198+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-07  3:15 [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:48   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-16  6:48     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  6:50   ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-16  6:50     ` Miaohe Lin
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-12  7:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-20  0:39       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-20  0:39         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-20 20:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-20 20:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-26 22:39     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 22:39       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 23:42       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 23:42         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  1:18           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  1:34           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:34             ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14  6:03   ` Barry Song
2022-04-14  6:03     ` Barry Song
2022-04-14 20:36     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 20:36       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 21:39       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14 21:39         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14 22:14         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 22:14           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:15         ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 10:15           ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:17           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 20:17             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 10:26       ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 10:26         ` Barry Song
2022-04-15 20:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 20:18           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 11:47   ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-14 11:47     ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-14 20:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-14 20:53       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  2:23       ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  2:23         ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  5:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  5:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  6:31           ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  6:31             ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  6:44             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  6:44               ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  9:27               ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-15  9:27                 ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-18  9:58   ` Barry Song
2022-04-18  9:58     ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  0:53     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19  0:53       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19  4:25       ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  4:25         ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  4:36         ` Barry Song
2022-04-19  4:36           ` Barry Song
2022-04-19 22:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:25             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:20         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:20           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  4:32   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-04-27  4:32     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-04-27  4:38     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  4:38       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  5:31       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-04-27  5:31         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-04-27  6:00         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  6:00           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  7:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-12  7:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-15  5:30       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  5:30         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:14     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:14       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  1:56       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  1:56         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15  6:25         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15  6:25           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 19:15           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 19:15             ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 20:11             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 20:11               ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 21:32               ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 21:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-15 21:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 21:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 22:57                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 22:57                     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 23:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 23:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-15 23:24                       ` [page-reclaim] " Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:24                         ` Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:31                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-15 23:31                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-04-15 23:37                           ` Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:37                             ` Jesse Barnes
2022-04-15 23:49                       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-15 23:49                         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16 16:32                 ` Justin Forbes
2022-04-16 16:32                   ` Justin Forbes
2022-04-19 22:32                   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-19 22:32                     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-29 14:10   ` zhong jiang
2022-04-29 14:10     ` zhong jiang
2022-04-30  8:34     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-30  8:34       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 20:57     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 20:57       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 22:22       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-27  1:11         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-27  1:11           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  0:03     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  0:03       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  4:20       ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  4:20         ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26  6:59         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26  6:59           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 21:30           ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 21:30             ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26 22:15             ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26 22:15               ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:41     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:51     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-07 12:51       ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-16  2:22     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-16  2:22       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15 ` [PATCH v10 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:15   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 11:39   ` Huang Shijie
2022-04-07 11:39     ` Huang Shijie
2022-04-07 12:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:41     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-07 12:52     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-07 12:52       ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-04-08  4:48       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-08  4:48         ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-04-12  2:16   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:16     ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-26  7:42     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-26  7:42       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:24 ` [PATCH v10 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  3:24   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  8:31   ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-07  8:31     ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-07  9:08     ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2022-04-07  9:08       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  9:41     ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07  9:41       ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-07 12:13       ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-07 12:13         ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-04-08  2:08         ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-08  2:08           ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-12  2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-12  2:15   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14  5:06 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-14  5:06   ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-20  0:50   ` Yu Zhao
2022-04-20  0:50     ` Yu Zhao

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