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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/12] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 09:02:40 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220511120240.GY49344@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yntrv+nq2t/IeVo2@myrica>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 08:54:39AM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > > > Then 'detach pasid' is:
> > > >
> > > > iommu_ops->blocking_domain->ops->attach_dev_pasid(domain, dev,
> > > pasid);
> > > >
> > > > And we move away from the notion of 'detach' and in the direction that
> > > > everything continuously has a domain set. PASID would logically
> > > > default to blocking_domain, though we wouldn't track this anywhere.
> > > 
> > > I am not sure whether we still need to keep the blocking domain concept
> > > when we are entering the new PASID world. Please allow me to wait and
> > > listen to more opinions.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm with Jason on this direction. In concept after a PASID is detached it's
> > essentially blocked. Implementation-wise it doesn't prevent the iommu
> > driver from marking the PASID entry as non-present as doing in this
> > series instead of actually pointing to the empty page table of the block
> > domain. But api-wise it does make the entire semantics more consistent.
> 
> This is all internal to IOMMU so I don't think we should be concerned
> about API consistency. I prefer a straighforward detach() operation
> because that way IOMMU drivers don't have to keep track of which domain is
> attached to which PASID. That code can be factored into the IOMMU core.

Why would a driver need to keep additional tracking?

> In addition to clearing contexts, detach() also needs to invalidate TLBs,
> and for that the SMMU driver needs to know the old ASID (!= PASID) that
> was used by the context descriptor. We can certainly work around a missing
> detach() to implement this, but it will be convoluted.

It is not "missing" it is just renamed to blocking_domain->ops->set_dev_pasid()

The implementation of that function would be identical to
detach_dev_pasid.

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe via iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/12] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 09:02:40 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220511120240.GY49344@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yntrv+nq2t/IeVo2@myrica>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 08:54:39AM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> > > > Then 'detach pasid' is:
> > > >
> > > > iommu_ops->blocking_domain->ops->attach_dev_pasid(domain, dev,
> > > pasid);
> > > >
> > > > And we move away from the notion of 'detach' and in the direction that
> > > > everything continuously has a domain set. PASID would logically
> > > > default to blocking_domain, though we wouldn't track this anywhere.
> > > 
> > > I am not sure whether we still need to keep the blocking domain concept
> > > when we are entering the new PASID world. Please allow me to wait and
> > > listen to more opinions.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm with Jason on this direction. In concept after a PASID is detached it's
> > essentially blocked. Implementation-wise it doesn't prevent the iommu
> > driver from marking the PASID entry as non-present as doing in this
> > series instead of actually pointing to the empty page table of the block
> > domain. But api-wise it does make the entire semantics more consistent.
> 
> This is all internal to IOMMU so I don't think we should be concerned
> about API consistency. I prefer a straighforward detach() operation
> because that way IOMMU drivers don't have to keep track of which domain is
> attached to which PASID. That code can be factored into the IOMMU core.

Why would a driver need to keep additional tracking?

> In addition to clearing contexts, detach() also needs to invalidate TLBs,
> and for that the SMMU driver needs to know the old ASID (!= PASID) that
> was used by the context descriptor. We can certainly work around a missing
> detach() to implement this, but it will be convoluted.

It is not "missing" it is just renamed to blocking_domain->ops->set_dev_pasid()

The implementation of that function would be identical to
detach_dev_pasid.

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-11 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-10  6:17 [PATCH v6 00/12] iommu: SVA and IOPF refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] dmaengine: idxd: Separate user and kernel pasid enabling Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] iommu: Add pasid_bits field in struct dev_iommu Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10 14:34   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-10 14:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11  2:25     ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11  2:25       ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11  8:00       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-11  8:00         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-11 11:59         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11 11:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10 14:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-10 14:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11  2:32     ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11  2:32       ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11  4:09       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-11  4:09         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-11  7:54         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-11  7:54           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-11 12:02           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-05-11 12:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-12  7:00             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-12  7:00               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-05-12 11:51               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-12 11:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-16  2:03                 ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-16  2:03                   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] iommu/sva: Basic data structures for SVA Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] iommu/vt-d: Remove SVM_FLAG_SUPERVISOR_MODE support Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10 14:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-10 14:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] iommu/vt-d: Add SVA domain support Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] arm-smmu-v3/sva: " Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] iommu/sva: Use attach/detach_pasid_dev in SVA interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10 15:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-10 15:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11  7:21     ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11  7:21       ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-11 14:53       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11 14:53         ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-12  3:02         ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12  3:02           ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12  5:01           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-12  5:01             ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-12  5:17             ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12  5:17               ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12  5:44               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-12  5:44                 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-12  6:16                 ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12  6:16                   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 11:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-12 11:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-12 11:59                 ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 11:59                   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 12:03                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-12 12:03                     ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-12 12:47                     ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 12:47                       ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 11:51           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-12 11:51             ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu
2022-05-12 12:39             ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-12 12:39               ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] iommu: Remove SVA related callbacks from iommu ops Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] iommu: Prepare IOMMU domain for IOPF Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] iommu: Per-domain I/O page fault handling Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] iommu: Rename iommu-sva-lib.{c,h} Lu Baolu
2022-05-10  6:17   ` Lu Baolu

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