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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Luka Perkov <luka.perkov@sartura.hr>,
	Robert Marko <robert.marko@sartura.hr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 22:40:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220514224002.vvmd43lnjkbsw2g3@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220514150656.122108-3-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 05:06:53PM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> This tagging protocol is designed for the situation where the link
> between the MAC and the Switch is designed such that the Destination
> Port, which is usually embedded in some part of the Ethernet Header, is
> sent out-of-band, and isn't present at all in the Ethernet frame.
> 
> This can happen when the MAC and Switch are tightly integrated on an
> SoC, as is the case with the Qualcomm IPQ4019 for example, where the DSA
> tag is inserted directly into the DMA descriptors. In that case,
> the MAC driver is responsible for sending the tag to the switch using
> the out-of-band medium. To do so, the MAC driver needs to have the
> information of the destination port for that skb.
> 
> This out-of-band tagging protocol is using the very beggining of the skb
> headroom to store the tag. The drawback of this approch is that the
> headroom isn't initialized upon allocating it, therefore we have a
> chance that the garbage data that lies there at allocation time actually
> ressembles a valid oob tag. This is only problematic if we are
> sending/receiving traffic on the master port, which isn't a valid DSA
> use-case from the beggining. When dealing from traffic to/from a slave
> port, then the oob tag will be initialized properly by the tagger or the
> mac driver through the use of the dsa_oob_tag_push() call.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
> ---

Why put the DSA pseudo-header at skb->head rather than push it using
skb_push()? I thought you were going to check for the presence of a DSA
header using something like skb->mac_len == ETH_HLEN + tag len, but
right now it sounds like treating garbage in the headroom as a valid DSA
tag is indeed a potential problem. If you can't sort that out using
information from the header offsets alone, maybe an skb extension is
required?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Cc: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Luka Perkov <luka.perkov@sartura.hr>,
	 Robert Marko <robert.marko@sartura.hr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 22:40:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220514224002.vvmd43lnjkbsw2g3@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220514150656.122108-3-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 05:06:53PM +0200, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> This tagging protocol is designed for the situation where the link
> between the MAC and the Switch is designed such that the Destination
> Port, which is usually embedded in some part of the Ethernet Header, is
> sent out-of-band, and isn't present at all in the Ethernet frame.
> 
> This can happen when the MAC and Switch are tightly integrated on an
> SoC, as is the case with the Qualcomm IPQ4019 for example, where the DSA
> tag is inserted directly into the DMA descriptors. In that case,
> the MAC driver is responsible for sending the tag to the switch using
> the out-of-band medium. To do so, the MAC driver needs to have the
> information of the destination port for that skb.
> 
> This out-of-band tagging protocol is using the very beggining of the skb
> headroom to store the tag. The drawback of this approch is that the
> headroom isn't initialized upon allocating it, therefore we have a
> chance that the garbage data that lies there at allocation time actually
> ressembles a valid oob tag. This is only problematic if we are
> sending/receiving traffic on the master port, which isn't a valid DSA
> use-case from the beggining. When dealing from traffic to/from a slave
> port, then the oob tag will be initialized properly by the tagger or the
> mac driver through the use of the dsa_oob_tag_push() call.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
> ---

Why put the DSA pseudo-header at skb->head rather than push it using
skb_push()? I thought you were going to check for the presence of a DSA
header using something like skb->mac_len == ETH_HLEN + tag len, but
right now it sounds like treating garbage in the headroom as a valid DSA
tag is indeed a potential problem. If you can't sort that out using
information from the header offsets alone, maybe an skb extension is
required?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-14 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-14 15:06 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] net: ipqess: introduce Qualcomm IPQESS driver Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] net: ipqess: introduce the " Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06   ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 17:18   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-05-14 17:18     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-05-17  7:09     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  7:09       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 20:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-14 20:44     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-17  7:11     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  7:11       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-16  2:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-05-16  2:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-05-17  7:13     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  7:13       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17 21:03   ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-05-17 21:03     ` Christophe JAILLET
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06   ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 16:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-14 16:33     ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-17  7:06     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  7:06       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 22:40   ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-05-14 22:40     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-17  7:01     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  7:01       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-19 14:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-19 14:52         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-19 17:11         ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-19 17:11           ` Florian Fainelli
2022-05-19 17:34           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-19 17:34             ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-16 19:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-16 19:20     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-17  6:53     ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17  6:53       ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-17 20:58       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-17 20:58         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] net: ipqess: Add out-of-band DSA tagging support Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06   ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: dt-bindings: Introduce the Qualcomm IPQESS Ethernet controller Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06   ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-18  0:52   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-18  0:52     ` Rob Herring
2022-05-14 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] ARM: dts: qcom: ipq4019: Add description for the " Maxime Chevallier
2022-05-14 15:06   ` Maxime Chevallier

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