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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	"Pantelis Antoniou" <pantelis.antoniou@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Vitaly Bordug" <vbordug@ru.mvista.com>,
	"Dan Malek" <dan@embeddededge.com>,
	"Joakim Tjernlund" <joakim.tjernlund@lumentis.se>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: fs_enet: sync rx dma buffer before reading
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 10:43:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220520104347.2b1b658a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b11dcb32-5915-c1c8-9f0e-3cfc57b55792@csgroup.eu>

On Fri, 20 May 2022 12:54:56 +0000 Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 20/05/2022 à 14:35, Måns Rullgård a écrit :
> > Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> writes:
> >> See original commit 070e1f01827c. It explicitely says that the cache
> >> must be invalidate _AFTER_ the copy.
> >>
> >> The cache is initialy invalidated by dma_map_single(), so before the
> >> copy the cache is already clean.
> >>
> >> After the copy, data is in the cache. In order to allow re-use of the
> >> skb, it must be put back in the same condition as before, in extenso the
> >> cache must be invalidated in order to be in the same situation as after
> >> dma_map_single().
> >>
> >> So I think your change is wrong.  
> > 
> > OK, looking at it more closely, the change is at least unnecessary since
> > there will be a cache invalidation between each use of the buffer either
> > way.  Please disregard the patch.  Sorry for the noise.
> >   
> 
> I also looked deeper.
> 
> Indeed it was implemented in kernel 4.9 or 4.8. At that time 
> dma_unmap_single() was a no-op, it was not doing any sync/invalidation 
> at all, invalidation was done only at mapping, so when we were reusing 
> the skb it was necessary to clean the cache _AFTER_ the copy as if it 
> was a new mapping.
> 
> Today a sync is done at both map and unmap, so it doesn't really matter 
> whether we do the invalidation before or after the copy when we re-use 
> the skb.

Hm, I think the patch is necessary, sorry if you're also saying that
and I'm misinterpreting. 

Without the dma_sync_single_for_cpu() if swiotlb is used the data
will not be copied back into the original buffer if there is no sync.

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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Dan Malek" <dan@embeddededge.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vitaly Bordug" <vbordug@ru.mvista.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Joakim Tjernlund" <joakim.tjernlund@lumentis.se>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: fs_enet: sync rx dma buffer before reading
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 10:43:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220520104347.2b1b658a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b11dcb32-5915-c1c8-9f0e-3cfc57b55792@csgroup.eu>

On Fri, 20 May 2022 12:54:56 +0000 Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 20/05/2022 à 14:35, Måns Rullgård a écrit :
> > Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu> writes:
> >> See original commit 070e1f01827c. It explicitely says that the cache
> >> must be invalidate _AFTER_ the copy.
> >>
> >> The cache is initialy invalidated by dma_map_single(), so before the
> >> copy the cache is already clean.
> >>
> >> After the copy, data is in the cache. In order to allow re-use of the
> >> skb, it must be put back in the same condition as before, in extenso the
> >> cache must be invalidated in order to be in the same situation as after
> >> dma_map_single().
> >>
> >> So I think your change is wrong.  
> > 
> > OK, looking at it more closely, the change is at least unnecessary since
> > there will be a cache invalidation between each use of the buffer either
> > way.  Please disregard the patch.  Sorry for the noise.
> >   
> 
> I also looked deeper.
> 
> Indeed it was implemented in kernel 4.9 or 4.8. At that time 
> dma_unmap_single() was a no-op, it was not doing any sync/invalidation 
> at all, invalidation was done only at mapping, so when we were reusing 
> the skb it was necessary to clean the cache _AFTER_ the copy as if it 
> was a new mapping.
> 
> Today a sync is done at both map and unmap, so it doesn't really matter 
> whether we do the invalidation before or after the copy when we re-use 
> the skb.

Hm, I think the patch is necessary, sorry if you're also saying that
and I'm misinterpreting. 

Without the dma_sync_single_for_cpu() if swiotlb is used the data
will not be copied back into the original buffer if there is no sync.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 19:24 [PATCH] net: fs_enet: sync rx dma buffer before reading Mans Rullgard
2022-05-20  5:39 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-20 12:35   ` Måns Rullgård
2022-05-20 12:35     ` Måns Rullgård
2022-05-20 12:54     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-20 12:54       ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-20 17:43       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-05-20 17:43         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-21  6:44         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-21  6:44           ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-21 17:44           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-21 17:44             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-23 20:23             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-05-23 20:23               ` Jakub Kicinski

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