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From: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/8] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 14:45:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220614064522.GA1783435@chaop.bj.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqNt3Sgzge5Rph/R@google.com>

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 04:14:21PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2022, Chao Peng wrote:
> > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 03:22:32PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > Actually, if the semantics are that userspace declares memory as private, then we
> > > can reuse KVM_MEMORY_ENCRYPT_REG_REGION and KVM_MEMORY_ENCRYPT_UNREG_REGION.  It'd
> > > be a little gross because we'd need to slightly redefine the semantics for TDX, SNP,
> > > and software-protected VM types, e.g. the ioctls() currently require a pre-exisitng
> > > memslot.  But I think it'd work...
> > 
> > These existing ioctls looks good for TDX and probably SNP as well. For
> > softrware-protected VM types, it may not be enough. Maybe for the first
> > step we can reuse this for all hardware based solutions and invent new
> > interface when software-protected solution gets really supported.
> > 
> > There is semantics difference for fd-based private memory. Current above
> > two ioctls() use userspace addreess(hva) while for fd-based it should be
> > fd+offset, and probably it's better to use gpa in this case. Then we
> > will need change existing semantics and break backward-compatibility.
> 
> My thought was to keep the existing semantics for VMs with type==0, i.e. SEV and
> SEV-ES VMs.  It's a bit gross, but the pinning behavior is a dead end for SNP and
> TDX, so it effectively needs to be deprecated anyways. 

Yes agreed.

> I'm definitely not opposed
> to a new ioctl if Paolo or others think this is too awful, but burning an ioctl
> for this seems wasteful.

Yes, I also feel confortable if it's acceptable to reuse kvm_enc_region
to pass _gpa_ range for this new type.

> 
> Then generic KVM can do something like:
> 
> 	case KVM_MEMORY_ENCRYPT_REG_REGION:
> 	case KVM_MEMORY_ENCRYPT_UNREG_REGION:
> 		struct kvm_enc_region region;
> 
> 		if (!kvm_arch_vm_supports_private_memslots(kvm))
> 			goto arch_vm_ioctl;
> 
> 		r = -EFAULT;
> 		if (copy_from_user(&region, argp, sizeof(region)))
> 			goto out;
> 
> 		r = kvm_set_encrypted_region(ioctl, &region);
> 		break;
> 	default:
> arch_vm_ioctl:
> 		r = kvm_arch_vm_ioctl(filp, ioctl, arg);
> 
> 
> where common KVM provides
> 
>   __weak void kvm_arch_vm_supports_private_memslots(struct kvm *kvm)
>   {
> 	return false;
>   }

I already had kvm_arch_private_mem_supported() introduced in patch-07
so that can be reused.

> 
> and x86 overrides that to
> 
>   bool kvm_arch_vm_supports_private_memslots(struct kvm *kvm)
>   {
>   	/* I can't remember what we decided on calling type '0' VMs. */
> 	return !!kvm->vm_type;
>   }
> 
> and if someone ever wants to enable private memslot for SEV/SEV-ES guests we can
> always add a capability or even a new VM type.
> 
> pKVM on arm can then obviously implement kvm_arch_vm_supports_private_memslots()
> to grab whatever identifies a pKVM VM.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 15:37 [PATCH v6 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] mm: Introduce memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] mm/shmem: Support memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-05-31 19:15   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-01 10:17     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-01 12:11       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-06-02 10:07         ` Chao Peng
2022-06-14 20:23           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-15  8:53             ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-05-20 17:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-05-20 18:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  4:03       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-05-23 13:21       ` Chao Peng
2022-05-23 15:22         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-30 13:26           ` Chao Peng
2022-06-10 16:14             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14  6:45               ` Chao Peng [this message]
2022-06-23 22:59       ` Michael Roth
2022-06-24  8:54         ` Chao Peng
2022-06-24 13:01           ` Michael Roth
2022-06-17 20:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-17 21:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-20 14:09       ` Chao Peng
2022-06-20 14:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-06-17 21:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-20 14:16     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-19  0:40     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-25 23:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-24  3:58   ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-06-24  9:02     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-30 19:14       ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-30 22:21         ` Michael Roth
2022-07-01  1:21           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-07-07 20:08             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-08  3:29               ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-07-20 23:08                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-07-21  9:45                   ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-06-23 22:07   ` Michael Roth
2022-06-24  8:43     ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] memfd_create.2: Describe MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-06-06 20:09 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-07  6:57   ` Chao Peng
2022-06-08  0:55     ` Marc Orr
2022-06-08  2:18       ` Chao Peng
2022-06-08 19:37         ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-09 20:29           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14  7:28             ` Chao Peng
2022-06-14 17:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-06-14 19:08                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14 20:59                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-06-15  9:17                     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-15 14:29                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-10  0:11         ` Marc Orr

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