All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	"Maciej S . Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com, david@redhat.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, ddutile@redhat.com, dhildenb@redhat.com,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	mhocko@suse.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 13:09:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGtprH_83CEC0U-cBR2FzHsxbwbGn0QJ87WFNOEet8sineOcbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220519153713.819591-1-chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>

>
> Private memory map/unmap and conversion
> ---------------------------------------
> Userspace's map/unmap operations are done by fallocate() ioctl on the
> backing store fd.
>   - map: default fallocate() with mode=0.
>   - unmap: fallocate() with FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE.
> The map/unmap will trigger above memfile_notifier_ops to let KVM map/unmap
> secondary MMU page tables.
>
....
>    QEMU: https://github.com/chao-p/qemu/tree/privmem-v6
>
> An example QEMU command line for TDX test:
> -object tdx-guest,id=tdx \
> -object memory-backend-memfd-private,id=ram1,size=2G \
> -machine q35,kvm-type=tdx,pic=no,kernel_irqchip=split,memory-encryption=tdx,memory-backend=ram1
>

There should be more discussion around double allocation scenarios
when using the private fd approach. A malicious guest or buggy
userspace VMM can cause physical memory getting allocated for both
shared (memory accessible from host) and private fds backing the guest
memory.
Userspace VMM will need to unback the shared guest memory while
handling the conversion from shared to private in order to prevent
double allocation even with malicious guests or bugs in userspace VMM.

Options to unback shared guest memory seem to be:
1) madvise(.., MADV_DONTNEED/MADV_REMOVE) - This option won't stop
kernel from backing the shared memory on subsequent write accesses
2) fallocate(..., FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE...) - For file backed shared
guest memory, this option still is similar to madvice since this would
still allow shared memory to get backed on write accesses
3) munmap - This would give away the contiguous virtual memory region
reservation with holes in the guest backing memory, which might make
guest memory management difficult.
4) mprotect(... PROT_NONE) - This would keep the virtual memory
address range backing the guest memory preserved

ram_block_discard_range_fd from reference implementation:
https://github.com/chao-p/qemu/tree/privmem-v6 seems to be relying on
fallocate/madvise.

Any thoughts/suggestions around better ways to unback the shared
memory in order to avoid double allocation scenarios?

Regards,
Vishal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-06 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-19 15:37 [PATCH v6 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] mm: Introduce memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] mm/shmem: Support memfile_notifier Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-05-31 19:15   ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-01 10:17     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-01 12:11       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2022-06-02 10:07         ` Chao Peng
2022-06-14 20:23           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-15  8:53             ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2022-05-20 17:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-05-20 18:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-22  4:03       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-05-23 13:21       ` Chao Peng
2022-05-23 15:22         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-05-30 13:26           ` Chao Peng
2022-06-10 16:14             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14  6:45               ` Chao Peng
2022-06-23 22:59       ` Michael Roth
2022-06-24  8:54         ` Chao Peng
2022-06-24 13:01           ` Michael Roth
2022-06-17 20:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-17 21:27     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-20 14:09       ` Chao Peng
2022-06-20 14:08     ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT exit Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-06-17 21:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-20 14:16     ` Chao Peng
2022-08-19  0:40     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-25 23:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-24  3:58   ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-06-24  9:02     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-30 19:14       ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-30 22:21         ` Michael Roth
2022-07-01  1:21           ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-07-07 20:08             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-08  3:29               ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-07-20 23:08                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-07-21  9:45                   ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] KVM: Enable and expose KVM_MEM_PRIVATE Chao Peng
2022-06-23 22:07   ` Michael Roth
2022-06-24  8:43     ` Chao Peng
2022-05-19 15:37 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] memfd_create.2: Describe MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2022-06-06 20:09 ` Vishal Annapurve [this message]
2022-06-07  6:57   ` [PATCH v6 0/8] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2022-06-08  0:55     ` Marc Orr
2022-06-08  2:18       ` Chao Peng
2022-06-08 19:37         ` Vishal Annapurve
2022-06-09 20:29           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14  7:28             ` Chao Peng
2022-06-14 17:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-06-14 19:08                 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-14 20:59                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-06-15  9:17                     ` Chao Peng
2022-06-15 14:29                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-10  0:11         ` Marc Orr

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAGtprH_83CEC0U-cBR2FzHsxbwbGn0QJ87WFNOEet8sineOcbQ@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=vannapurve@google.com \
    --cc=aarcange@redhat.com \
    --cc=ak@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=bfields@fieldses.org \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=ddutile@redhat.com \
    --cc=dhildenb@redhat.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=hughd@google.com \
    --cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
    --cc=jmattson@google.com \
    --cc=joro@8bytes.org \
    --cc=jun.nakajima@intel.com \
    --cc=kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-api@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=luto@kernel.org \
    --cc=mail@maciej.szmigiero.name \
    --cc=mhocko@suse.com \
    --cc=michael.roth@amd.com \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qperret@google.com \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=steven.price@arm.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    --cc=vkuznets@redhat.com \
    --cc=wanpengli@tencent.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.