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From: Niranjana Vishwanathapura <niranjana.vishwanathapura@intel.com>
To: "Hellstrom, Thomas" <thomas.hellstrom@intel.com>
Cc: "Brost, Matthew" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Zanoni, Paulo R" <paulo.r.zanoni@intel.com>,
	"Landwerlin, Lionel G" <lionel.g.landwerlin@intel.com>,
	"Ursulin, Tvrtko" <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Auld, Matthew" <matthew.auld@intel.com>,
	"jason@jlekstrand.net" <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
	"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"christian.koenig@amd.com" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 03/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Support private and shared BOs
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 13:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220709201347.GA14039@nvishwa1-DESK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9cae3426f00b1f8335a45f6458c430710b06e8c.camel@intel.com>

On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 07:44:54AM -0700, Hellstrom, Thomas wrote:
>On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 15:43 +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>> > The vm_bind/bound_list and the non_priv_vm_bind_list are there for
>> > very different reasons.
>> >
>> > The reason for having separate vm_bind_list and vm_bound_list is
>> > that
>> > during the execbuf path, we can rebind the unbound mappings by
>> > scooping
>> > all unbound vmas back from bound list into the bind list and
>> > binding
>> > them. In fact, this probably can be done with a single vm_bind_list
>> > and
>> > a 'eb.bind_list' (local to execbuf3 ioctl) for rebinding.
>> >
>> > The non_priv_vm_bind_list is just an optimization to loop only
>> > through
>> > non-priv objects while taking the locks in
>> > eb_lock_persistent_vmas()
>> > as only non-priv objects needs that (private objects are locked in
>> > a
>> > single shot with vm_priv_lock). A non-priv mapping will also be in
>> > the
>> > vm_bind/bound_list.
>> >
>> > I think, we need to add this as documentation to be more clear.
>>
>> OK, I understood it as private objects were either on the vm_bind
>> list
>> or vm_bound_list depending on whether they needed rebinding or not,
>> and
>> shared objects only on the non_priv_vm_bind list, and were always
>> locked, validated and fenced...
>>
>> Need to take a deeper look...
>>
>> /Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Niranjana
>> >
>> >
>
>Hmm. Just a quick thought on this, Since the non-private vm-bind
>objects all need to be iterated through (locked and fenced and userptr
>valid) on each execbuf, and checking for validation (resident and
>bound) is a very quick check, then we'd never need to add them to the
>rebind list at all, right? If so the rebind list would be exclusive to
>vm-private objects.

Yah, non-private vm-bind objects all need to be iterated through, locked
and fenced (not required to be validated/userptr validated unless there
is an invalidation).

Yah, we can say that it is a quick check to see if BO needs rebinding
(validated), and hence rebind_list is mainly useful only for vm-private
objects.
But there has been some discussions to optimize the non-private BOs case
by not having to iterate. I am not sure how that will shape up, but
something to consider here.

>
>Also I don't think the vm_bind list can be execbuf-local, since binding
>may not have completed at vma_release time, at which point the objects
>need to remain on the vm_bind list until the next execbuf...

Yah, in execbuf3, after scooping all unbind BOs in vm_bind_list and
validating (binding) them, during eb_release_vmas, we only move those
BOs to vm_bound_list for which the binding is complete. If not, they
will remain in vm_bind_list. If we make this list, execbuf-local, then
we have to add all the BOs for which binding is not complete back into
rebind_list so that next execbuf will pick it up. Probably the current
vm_bind/bound_list is the better option.

Niranjana

>
>/Thomas
>
>

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From: Niranjana Vishwanathapura <niranjana.vishwanathapura@intel.com>
To: "Hellstrom, Thomas" <thomas.hellstrom@intel.com>
Cc: "Zanoni, Paulo R" <paulo.r.zanoni@intel.com>,
	"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Auld, Matthew" <matthew.auld@intel.com>,
	"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"christian.koenig@amd.com" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [RFC 03/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Support private and shared BOs
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 13:13:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220709201347.GA14039@nvishwa1-DESK> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9cae3426f00b1f8335a45f6458c430710b06e8c.camel@intel.com>

On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 07:44:54AM -0700, Hellstrom, Thomas wrote:
>On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 15:43 +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
>> > The vm_bind/bound_list and the non_priv_vm_bind_list are there for
>> > very different reasons.
>> >
>> > The reason for having separate vm_bind_list and vm_bound_list is
>> > that
>> > during the execbuf path, we can rebind the unbound mappings by
>> > scooping
>> > all unbound vmas back from bound list into the bind list and
>> > binding
>> > them. In fact, this probably can be done with a single vm_bind_list
>> > and
>> > a 'eb.bind_list' (local to execbuf3 ioctl) for rebinding.
>> >
>> > The non_priv_vm_bind_list is just an optimization to loop only
>> > through
>> > non-priv objects while taking the locks in
>> > eb_lock_persistent_vmas()
>> > as only non-priv objects needs that (private objects are locked in
>> > a
>> > single shot with vm_priv_lock). A non-priv mapping will also be in
>> > the
>> > vm_bind/bound_list.
>> >
>> > I think, we need to add this as documentation to be more clear.
>>
>> OK, I understood it as private objects were either on the vm_bind
>> list
>> or vm_bound_list depending on whether they needed rebinding or not,
>> and
>> shared objects only on the non_priv_vm_bind list, and were always
>> locked, validated and fenced...
>>
>> Need to take a deeper look...
>>
>> /Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Niranjana
>> >
>> >
>
>Hmm. Just a quick thought on this, Since the non-private vm-bind
>objects all need to be iterated through (locked and fenced and userptr
>valid) on each execbuf, and checking for validation (resident and
>bound) is a very quick check, then we'd never need to add them to the
>rebind list at all, right? If so the rebind list would be exclusive to
>vm-private objects.

Yah, non-private vm-bind objects all need to be iterated through, locked
and fenced (not required to be validated/userptr validated unless there
is an invalidation).

Yah, we can say that it is a quick check to see if BO needs rebinding
(validated), and hence rebind_list is mainly useful only for vm-private
objects.
But there has been some discussions to optimize the non-private BOs case
by not having to iterate. I am not sure how that will shape up, but
something to consider here.

>
>Also I don't think the vm_bind list can be execbuf-local, since binding
>may not have completed at vma_release time, at which point the objects
>need to remain on the vm_bind list until the next execbuf...

Yah, in execbuf3, after scooping all unbind BOs in vm_bind_list and
validating (binding) them, during eb_release_vmas, we only move those
BOs to vm_bound_list for which the binding is complete. If not, they
will remain in vm_bind_list. If we make this list, execbuf-local, then
we have to add all the BOs for which binding is not complete back into
rebind_list so that next execbuf will pick it up. Probably the current
vm_bind/bound_list is the better option.

Niranjana

>
>/Thomas
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-09 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-01 22:50 [RFC 00/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Add VM_BIND functionality Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 01/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Introduce VM_BIND ioctl Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-05  9:59   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-05  9:59     ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07  1:18     ` [Intel-gfx] " Andi Shyti
2022-07-07  1:18       ` Andi Shyti
2022-07-07  5:06       ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  5:01     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  5:01       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  7:32       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07  7:32         ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 12:58         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 12:58           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 02/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Bind and unbind mappings Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-06 16:21   ` Thomas Hellström
2022-07-06 16:21     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Hellström
2022-07-07  1:41     ` Andi Shyti
2022-07-07  1:41       ` Andi Shyti
2022-07-07  5:48       ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  5:43     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  5:43       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  8:14       ` Thomas Hellström
2022-07-07  8:14         ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Hellström
2022-07-08 12:57         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 12:57           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-18 10:55   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-07-26  5:07     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-26  8:40       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 03/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Support private and shared BOs Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 10:31   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 10:31     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 13:14     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 13:14       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 13:43       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 13:43         ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 14:44         ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 14:44           ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-09 20:13           ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura [this message]
2022-07-09 20:13             ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 13:27   ` Christian König
2022-07-07 13:27     ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-07-08 13:23     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 13:23       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 17:32       ` Christian König
2022-07-08 17:32         ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-07-09 20:14         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-09 20:14           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 04/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Add out fence support Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 05/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Handle persistent vmas Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-04 17:05   ` Zeng, Oak
2022-07-04 17:05     ` Zeng, Oak
2022-07-05  9:20     ` Ramalingam C
2022-07-05  9:20       ` Ramalingam C
2022-07-05 13:50       ` Zeng, Oak
2022-07-05 13:50         ` Zeng, Oak
2022-07-07  6:00         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 11:27   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 11:27     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 15:06     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 15:06       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 06/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Add I915_GEM_EXECBUFFER3 ioctl Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 14:41   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 14:41     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 19:38     ` Andi Shyti
2022-07-07 19:38       ` Andi Shyti
2022-07-08 12:22       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 12:22         ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 13:47     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 13:47       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 14:37       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 14:37         ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-09 20:23         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-09 20:23           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 07/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Handle persistent vmas in execbuf3 Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 14:54   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 14:54     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 12:44     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 12:44       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 13:03       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 13:03         ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-09 20:25         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-09 20:25           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 08/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: userptr dma-resv changes Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07 13:11   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-07 13:11     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 14:51     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 14:51       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 15:20       ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 15:20         ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-09 20:56         ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-09 20:56           ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 12:17   ` Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 12:17     ` [Intel-gfx] " Hellstrom, Thomas
2022-07-08 14:54     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 14:54       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 09/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Skip vma_lookup for persistent vmas Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-05  8:57   ` Thomas Hellström
2022-07-05  8:57     ` Thomas Hellström
2022-07-08 12:40     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-08 12:40       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50 ` [RFC 10/10] drm/i915/vm_bind: Fix vm->vm_bind_mutex and vm->mutex nesting Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 22:50   ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-05  8:40   ` Thomas Hellström
2022-07-05  8:40     ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Hellström
2022-07-06 16:33     ` Ramalingam C
2022-07-06 16:33       ` [Intel-gfx] " Ramalingam C
2022-07-07  5:56     ` Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-07  5:56       ` [Intel-gfx] " Niranjana Vishwanathapura
2022-07-01 23:19 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for drm/i915/vm_bind: Add VM_BIND functionality Patchwork
2022-07-01 23:19 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2022-07-01 23:40 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork

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