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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Prashant Malani <pmalani@chromium.org>
Cc: "Stephen Boyd" <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	"Pin-yen Lin" <treapking@chromium.org>,
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	"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Xin Ji" <xji@analogixsemi.com>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/9] dt-bindings: usb: Add Type-C switch binding
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 11:45:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220712174551.GG1823936-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACeCKadtmGZ5iuTHdMms6ZHGn-Uv=MbcdtqmUzqCb=5WHuPj2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 10:10:32AM -0700, Prashant Malani wrote:
> (CC+ Bjorn)
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 4:55 PM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Quoting Prashant Malani (2022-06-29 15:55:10)
> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 2:58 PM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is there are 4 DP lanes on it6505 and two lanes are
> > > > connected to one usb-c-connector and the other two lanes are connected
> > > > to a different usb-c-connector. The IT6505 driver will send DP out on
> > > > the associated two DP lanes depending on which usb-c-connector has DP
> > > > pins assigned by the typec manager.
> > [...]
> > >
> > > We can adopt this binding, but from what I gathered in this thread, that
> > > shouldn't be done, because IT6505 isn't meant to be aware of Type-C
> > > connections at all.
> >
> > How will the driver know which usb-c-connector to route DP to without
> > making the binding aware of typec connections?
> 
> I agree with you; I'm saying my interpretation of the comments of this
> thread are that it's not the intended usage of the it6505 part, so the driver
> shouldn't be updated to support that.

That's not the right interpretation. There should not be some Type-C 
specific child mux/switch node because the device has no such h/w within 
it. Assuming all the possibilities Stephen outlined are valid, it's 
clear this lane selection has nothing to do with Type-C. It does have an 
output port for its DP output already and using that to describe the 
connection to DP connector(s) and/or Type-C connector(s) should be 
handled.

Whether the driver is type-C aware is a separate question from the 
binding. I would think the driver just needs to be told (or it can ask) 
which endpoint should be active and it just enables output on the
corresponding lanes for that endpoint. I'm not sure if all DP bridge 
chips have the same flexibility on their output lanes, but I would 
assume many do and we don't want to be duplicating the same code to 
handle that in every bridge driver.

Rob

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Prashant Malani <pmalani@chromium.org>
Cc: "Heikki Krogerus" <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	"Neil Armstrong" <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Nícolas F . R . A . Prado" <nfraprado@collabora.com>,
	"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	"Allen Chen" <allen.chen@ite.com.tw>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <swboyd@chromium.org>,
	"Pin-yen Lin" <treapking@chromium.org>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	"Hsin-Yi Wang" <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	"Xin Ji" <xji@analogixsemi.com>,
	"AngeloGioacchino Del Regno"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Linux USB List" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Robert Foss" <robert.foss@linaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"José Expósito" <jose.exposito89@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/9] dt-bindings: usb: Add Type-C switch binding
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 11:45:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220712174551.GG1823936-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACeCKadtmGZ5iuTHdMms6ZHGn-Uv=MbcdtqmUzqCb=5WHuPj2Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 10:10:32AM -0700, Prashant Malani wrote:
> (CC+ Bjorn)
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 4:55 PM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Quoting Prashant Malani (2022-06-29 15:55:10)
> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 2:58 PM Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My understanding is there are 4 DP lanes on it6505 and two lanes are
> > > > connected to one usb-c-connector and the other two lanes are connected
> > > > to a different usb-c-connector. The IT6505 driver will send DP out on
> > > > the associated two DP lanes depending on which usb-c-connector has DP
> > > > pins assigned by the typec manager.
> > [...]
> > >
> > > We can adopt this binding, but from what I gathered in this thread, that
> > > shouldn't be done, because IT6505 isn't meant to be aware of Type-C
> > > connections at all.
> >
> > How will the driver know which usb-c-connector to route DP to without
> > making the binding aware of typec connections?
> 
> I agree with you; I'm saying my interpretation of the comments of this
> thread are that it's not the intended usage of the it6505 part, so the driver
> shouldn't be updated to support that.

That's not the right interpretation. There should not be some Type-C 
specific child mux/switch node because the device has no such h/w within 
it. Assuming all the possibilities Stephen outlined are valid, it's 
clear this lane selection has nothing to do with Type-C. It does have an 
output port for its DP output already and using that to describe the 
connection to DP connector(s) and/or Type-C connector(s) should be 
handled.

Whether the driver is type-C aware is a separate question from the 
binding. I would think the driver just needs to be told (or it can ask) 
which endpoint should be active and it just enables output on the
corresponding lanes for that endpoint. I'm not sure if all DP bridge 
chips have the same flexibility on their output lanes, but I would 
assume many do and we don't want to be duplicating the same code to 
handle that in every bridge driver.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-12 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-22 17:34 [PATCH v5 0/9] usb: typec: Introduce typec-switch binding Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] dt-bindings: usb: Add Type-C switch binding Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 18:30   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 18:30     ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 19:08     ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 19:08       ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 23:14       ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 23:14         ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-24  0:35         ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24  0:35           ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24  1:24           ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24  1:24             ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24  2:13           ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-24  2:13             ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-24  2:48             ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24  2:48               ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24 19:50               ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-24 19:50                 ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-24 21:41                 ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-24 21:41                   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-25  1:21                   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-25  1:21                     ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-25 20:13                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-25 20:13                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-06-27 21:04   ` Rob Herring
2022-06-27 21:04     ` Rob Herring
2022-06-27 21:43     ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-27 21:43       ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-28 18:23       ` Rob Herring
2022-06-28 18:23         ` Rob Herring
2022-06-29 14:33         ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-29 14:33           ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-29 15:00           ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-29 15:00             ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-29 17:58             ` Rob Herring
2022-06-29 17:58               ` Rob Herring
2022-06-29 21:58               ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-29 21:58                 ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-29 22:55                 ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-29 22:55                   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-29 23:55                   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-29 23:55                     ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-30 17:10                     ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-30 17:10                       ` Prashant Malani
2022-07-12 17:45                       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2022-07-12 17:45                         ` Rob Herring
2022-07-13 21:58                         ` Prashant Malani
2022-07-13 21:58                           ` Prashant Malani
2022-09-02  7:41                         ` Prashant Malani
2022-09-02  7:41                           ` Prashant Malani
2022-09-16 18:21                           ` Prashant Malani
2022-09-16 18:21                             ` Prashant Malani
2022-10-03  3:42                             ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-10-03  3:42                               ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] dt-bindings: drm/bridge: anx7625: Add mode-switch support Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] drm/bridge: anx7625: Register number of Type C switches Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] drm/bridge: anx7625: Register Type-C mode switches Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] drm/bridge: anx7625: Add typec_mux_set callback function Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-28 19:25   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-28 19:25     ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-28 19:48     ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-28 19:48       ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-28 20:40       ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-28 20:40         ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-28 20:56         ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-28 20:56           ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-30 23:21           ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-30 23:21             ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-30 23:38             ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-30 23:38               ` Prashant Malani
2022-07-06 18:26               ` Prashant Malani
2022-07-06 18:26                 ` Prashant Malani
2022-07-07  0:17                 ` Stephen Boyd
2022-07-07  0:17                   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-07-12 10:22                   ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-07-12 10:22                     ` Pin-yen Lin
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] dt/bindings: drm/bridge: it6505: Add mode-switch support Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 18:24   ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 18:24     ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 18:37     ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 18:37       ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 19:08       ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 19:08         ` Stephen Boyd
2022-06-23 19:15         ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-23 19:15           ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] drm/bridge: it6505: Register number of Type C switches Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-27 21:05   ` Rob Herring
2022-06-27 21:05     ` Rob Herring
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] drm/bridge: it6505: Register Type-C mode switches Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] drm/bridge: it6505: Add typec_mux_set callback function Prashant Malani
2022-06-22 17:34   ` Prashant Malani

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