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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	elena.reshetova@intel.com, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] virtio console: Harden port adding
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:12:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230127071152-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k018p4xs.fsf@ubik.fi.intel.com>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 01:55:43PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:13:18PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> >> When handling control messages, instead of peeking at the device memory
> >> to obtain bits of the control structure,
> >
> > Except the message makes it seem that we are getting data from
> > device memory, when we do nothing of the kind.
> 
> We can be, see below.
> 
> >> take a snapshot of it once and
> >> use it instead, to prevent it from changing under us. This avoids races
> >> between port id validation and control event decoding, which can lead
> >> to, for example, a NULL dereference in port removal of a nonexistent
> >> port.
> >> 
> >> The control structure is small enough (8 bytes) that it can be cached
> >> directly on the stack.
> >
> > I still have no real idea why we want a copy here.
> > If device can poke anywhere at memory then it can crash kernel anyway.
> > If there's a bounce buffer or an iommu or some other protection
> > in place, then this memory can no longer change by the time
> > we look at it.
> 
> We can have shared pages between the host and guest without bounce
> buffers in between, so they can be both looking directly at the same
> page.
> 
> Regards,

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> --
> Alex

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	jasowang@redhat.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, elena.reshetova@intel.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] virtio console: Harden port adding
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:12:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230127071152-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k018p4xs.fsf@ubik.fi.intel.com>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 01:55:43PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:13:18PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> >> When handling control messages, instead of peeking at the device memory
> >> to obtain bits of the control structure,
> >
> > Except the message makes it seem that we are getting data from
> > device memory, when we do nothing of the kind.
> 
> We can be, see below.
> 
> >> take a snapshot of it once and
> >> use it instead, to prevent it from changing under us. This avoids races
> >> between port id validation and control event decoding, which can lead
> >> to, for example, a NULL dereference in port removal of a nonexistent
> >> port.
> >> 
> >> The control structure is small enough (8 bytes) that it can be cached
> >> directly on the stack.
> >
> > I still have no real idea why we want a copy here.
> > If device can poke anywhere at memory then it can crash kernel anyway.
> > If there's a bounce buffer or an iommu or some other protection
> > in place, then this memory can no longer change by the time
> > we look at it.
> 
> We can have shared pages between the host and guest without bounce
> buffers in between, so they can be both looking directly at the same
> page.
> 
> Regards,

How does this configuration work? What else is in this page?

> --
> Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-27 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-19 13:57 [PATCH v1 0/6] Harden a few virtio bits Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] virtio console: Harden multiport against invalid host input Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 15:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 15:17     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 18:52     ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 19:18       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 19:18         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 19:34         ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20 13:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 13:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 15:51     ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] virtio console: Harden port adding Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 15:20   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 15:20     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 17:48     ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 18:57       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 18:57         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 20:13         ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20  7:15           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-20  7:15             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-27 11:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 11:02             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 11:55             ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-27 12:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-01-27 12:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 12:47                 ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-27 13:31                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-27 13:31                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-27 14:17                     ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-27 14:37                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-27 14:37                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-27 14:46                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 14:46                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-02 12:02                         ` Reshetova, Elena
2023-01-27 13:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 13:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] virtio 9p: Fix an overflow Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20 12:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 16:29     ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] virtio console: Harden control message handling Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 15:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-19 15:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-20 12:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 16:41       ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-27 10:58         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 10:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-27 12:04           ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] virtio_net: Guard against buffer length overflow in xdp_linearize_page() Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20 13:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 13:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-19 13:57 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] virtio_ring: Prevent bounds check bypass on descriptor index Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20 12:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 11:55 ` [PATCH v1 0/6] Harden a few virtio bits Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 11:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:32   ` Alexander Shishkin
2023-01-20 12:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-20 12:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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