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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru,
	mb@smartsharesystems.com, nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 08:04:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230330080448.5a73a5d3@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230330062939.1206267-1-feifei.wang2@arm.com>

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 14:29:36 +0800
Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com> wrote:

> Currently, the transmit side frees the buffers into the lcore cache and
> the receive side allocates buffers from the lcore cache. The transmit
> side typically frees 32 buffers resulting in 32*8=256B of stores to
> lcore cache. The receive side allocates 32 buffers and stores them in
> the receive side software ring, resulting in 32*8=256B of stores and
> 256B of load from the lcore cache.
> 
> This patch proposes a mechanism to avoid freeing to/allocating from
> the lcore cache. i.e. the receive side will free the buffers from
> transmit side directly into its software ring. This will avoid the 256B
> of loads and stores introduced by the lcore cache. It also frees up the
> cache lines used by the lcore cache. And we can call this mode as buffer
> recycle mode.


My naive reading of this is that lcore cache update is slow on ARM
so you are introducing yet another cache. Perhaps a better solution
would be to figure out/optimize the lcore cache to work better.

Adding another layer of abstraction is not going to help everyone
and the implementation you chose requires modifications to drivers
to get it to work.

In current form, this is not acceptable.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-30 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-24 16:46 [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] net/i40e: enable direct re-arm mode Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 19:38   ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-12-26  9:49     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2021-12-26 10:31       ` Morten Brørup
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] net/i40e: add direct re-arm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2021-12-24 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] examples/l3fwd: give an example for direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2021-12-26 10:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Morten Brørup
2021-12-28  6:55   ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-01-18 15:51     ` Ferruh Yigit
2022-01-18 16:53       ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-01-18 17:27         ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-27  5:24           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27 16:45             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2022-02-02 19:46               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27  5:16         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-28  6:43       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28  6:52         ` Feifei Wang
2022-01-27  4:06   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-01-27 17:13     ` Morten Brørup
2022-01-28 11:29     ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-23 10:43 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add API for buffer recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 11:41     ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-29  2:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] net/i40e: implement recycle buffer mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-23 10:43   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-30  6:29 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Feifei Wang
2023-03-30  6:29   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: add API for buffer recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-30  7:19     ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-30  9:31       ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 15:15         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-30 15:58         ` Morten Brørup
2023-04-26  6:59           ` Feifei Wang
2023-04-19 14:46     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-26  7:29       ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30  6:29   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] net/i40e: implement recycle buffer mode Feifei Wang
2023-03-30  6:29   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-04-19 14:46     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-26  7:36       ` Feifei Wang
2023-03-30 15:04   ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2023-04-03  2:48     ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Recycle buffers from Tx to Rx Feifei Wang
2023-04-19 14:56   ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-04-25  7:57     ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25  9:45 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue to Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-05-25  9:45   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-05-25 15:08     ` Morten Brørup
2023-05-31  6:10       ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 12:53     ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06  2:55       ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06  7:10         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-06  7:31           ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06  8:34             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-07  0:00               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-06-12  3:25                 ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25  9:45   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 13:02     ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06  3:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06  7:18         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-06  7:58           ` Feifei Wang
2023-06-06  8:27             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-06-12  3:05               ` Feifei Wang
2023-05-25  9:45   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-05-25  9:45   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-06-05 13:08     ` Константин Ананьев
2023-06-06  6:32       ` Feifei Wang

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