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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@broadcom.com>
Cc: "Jim Quinlan" <jim2101024@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nicolas Saenz Julienne" <nsaenz@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Cyril Brulebois" <kibi@debian.org>,
	"Phil Elwell" <phil@raspberrypi.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] PCI: brcmstb: Set PCIe transaction completion timeout
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 17:38:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230430223849.GA528725@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+-6iNwb6Cn-78BJ5URhwvDuYHg5b4X5h+WdMw-CB3nRs=pSYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 05:24:26PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 3:13 PM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 06:34:57PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > Since the STB PCIe HW will cause a CPU abort on a PCIe transaction
> > > completion timeout abort, we might as well extend the default timeout
> > > limit.  Further, different devices and systems may requires a larger or
> > > smaller amount commensurate with their L1SS exit time, so the property
> > > "brcm,completion-timeout-us" may be used to set a custom timeout value.
> >
> > s/requires/require/
> >
> > AFAIK, other platforms do not tweak Configuration Timeout values based
> > on L1SS exit time.  Why is brcm different?
> 
> Keep in mind that our Brcm PCIe HW signals a CPU abort on a PCIe
> completion timeout.  Other PCIe HW just returns 0xffffffff.

Most does, but I'm pretty sure there are other controllers used on
arm64 that signal CPU aborts, e.g., imx6q_pcie_abort_handler() seems
similar.

> I've been maintaining this driver for over eight years or so and we've
> done fine with the HW default completion timeout value.
> Only recently has a major customer requested that this timeout value
> be changed, and their reason was so they could
> avoid a CPU abort when using L1SS.
> 
> Now we could set this value to a big number for all cases and not
> require "brcm,completion-timeout-us".  I cannot see any
> downsides, other than another customer coming along asking us to
> double the default or lessen it.
> 
> But I'm certainly willing to do that -- would that  be acceptable?

That would be fine with me.

Bjorn

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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@broadcom.com>
Cc: "Jim Quinlan" <jim2101024@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nicolas Saenz Julienne" <nsaenz@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Cyril Brulebois" <kibi@debian.org>,
	"Phil Elwell" <phil@raspberrypi.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] PCI: brcmstb: Set PCIe transaction completion timeout
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 17:38:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230430223849.GA528725@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+-6iNwb6Cn-78BJ5URhwvDuYHg5b4X5h+WdMw-CB3nRs=pSYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 05:24:26PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 3:13 PM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 06:34:57PM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > Since the STB PCIe HW will cause a CPU abort on a PCIe transaction
> > > completion timeout abort, we might as well extend the default timeout
> > > limit.  Further, different devices and systems may requires a larger or
> > > smaller amount commensurate with their L1SS exit time, so the property
> > > "brcm,completion-timeout-us" may be used to set a custom timeout value.
> >
> > s/requires/require/
> >
> > AFAIK, other platforms do not tweak Configuration Timeout values based
> > on L1SS exit time.  Why is brcm different?
> 
> Keep in mind that our Brcm PCIe HW signals a CPU abort on a PCIe
> completion timeout.  Other PCIe HW just returns 0xffffffff.

Most does, but I'm pretty sure there are other controllers used on
arm64 that signal CPU aborts, e.g., imx6q_pcie_abort_handler() seems
similar.

> I've been maintaining this driver for over eight years or so and we've
> done fine with the HW default completion timeout value.
> Only recently has a major customer requested that this timeout value
> be changed, and their reason was so they could
> avoid a CPU abort when using L1SS.
> 
> Now we could set this value to a big number for all cases and not
> require "brcm,completion-timeout-us".  I cannot see any
> downsides, other than another customer coming along asking us to
> double the default or lessen it.
> 
> But I'm certainly willing to do that -- would that  be acceptable?

That would be fine with me.

Bjorn

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-30 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-28 22:34 [PATCH v4 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] dt-bindings: PCI: brcmstb: brcm,{enable-l1ss,completion-timeout-us} props Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-30 19:10   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-04-30 19:10     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-03 14:38     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 14:38       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 18:07       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-03 18:07         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-03 21:38         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 21:38           ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 22:18           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-03 22:18             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-05 12:39             ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-05 12:39               ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-05 13:34               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-05 13:34                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-05 14:40                 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-05 14:40                   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-05 14:54                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-05 14:54                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-04-28 22:34 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure HW CLKREQ# mode appropriate for downstream device Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03  6:09   ` Stefan Wahren
2023-05-03  6:09     ` Stefan Wahren
2023-04-28 22:34 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] PCI: brcmstb: Set PCIe transaction completion timeout Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-30 19:13   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-04-30 19:13     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-04-30 21:24     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-30 21:24       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-30 22:38       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2023-04-30 22:38         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-05-01 20:55       ` Lukas Wunner
2023-05-03 14:06         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 14:06           ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03  6:06   ` Stefan Wahren
2023-05-03  6:06     ` Stefan Wahren
2023-04-28 22:34 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] PCI: brcmstb: Don't assume 2711 bootloader leaves PERST# asserted Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] PCI: brcmstb: Remove stale comment Jim Quinlan
2023-04-28 22:34   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-02 23:15 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode Cyril Brulebois
2023-05-02 23:15   ` Cyril Brulebois
2023-05-03 18:10   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 18:10     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-05-03 19:10     ` Cyril Brulebois
2023-05-03 19:10       ` Cyril Brulebois

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