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From: Anirudh Venkataramanan <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
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	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	intel-wired-lan <intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] ixgbe: Use kmap_local_page in ixgbe_check_lbtest_frame()
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:38:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22aa8568-7f6e-605e-7219-325795b218b7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0Uf1o+i0qKf7J_xqC3SACRFhiYqyhBeQydgUafB5uFkAvg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/22/2022 1:58 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 1:07 PM Anirudh Venkataramanan
> <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Following Fabio's patches, I made similar changes for e1000/e1000e and
>> submitted them to IWL [1].
>>
>> Yesterday, Ira Weiny pointed me to some feedback from Dave Hansen on the
>> use of page_address() [2]. My understanding of this feedback is that
>> it's safer to use kmap_local_page() instead of page_address(), because
>> you don't always know how the underlying page was allocated.
>>
>> This approach (of using kmap_local_page() instead of page_address())
>> makes sense to me. Any reason not to go this way?
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-1-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>
>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-2-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>
>> [2]
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5d667258-b58b-3d28-3609-e7914c99b31b@intel.com/
>>
>> Ani
> 
> For the two patches you referenced the driver is the one allocating
> the pages. So in such a case the page_address should be acceptable.
> Specifically we are falling into alloc_page(GFP_ATOMIC) which should
> fall into the first case that Dave Hansen called out.

Right. However, I did run into a case in the chelsio inline crypto 
driver where it seems like the pages are allocated outside the driver. 
In such cases, kmap_local_page() would be the right approach, as the 
driver can't make assumptions on how the page was allocated.

... and this makes me wonder why not just use kmap_local_page() even in 
cases where the page allocation was done in the driver. IMO, this is 
simpler because

a) you don't have to care how a page was allocated. kmap_local_page() 
will create a temporary mapping if required, if not it just becomes a 
wrapper to page_address().

b) should a future patch change the allocation to be from highmem, you 
don't have to change a bunch of page_address() calls to be 
kmap_local_page().

Is using page_address() directly beneficial in some way?

Ani


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From: Anirudh Venkataramanan <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	intel-wired-lan <intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] ixgbe: Use kmap_local_page in ixgbe_check_lbtest_frame()
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:38:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22aa8568-7f6e-605e-7219-325795b218b7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0Uf1o+i0qKf7J_xqC3SACRFhiYqyhBeQydgUafB5uFkAvg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/22/2022 1:58 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 1:07 PM Anirudh Venkataramanan
> <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Following Fabio's patches, I made similar changes for e1000/e1000e and
>> submitted them to IWL [1].
>>
>> Yesterday, Ira Weiny pointed me to some feedback from Dave Hansen on the
>> use of page_address() [2]. My understanding of this feedback is that
>> it's safer to use kmap_local_page() instead of page_address(), because
>> you don't always know how the underlying page was allocated.
>>
>> This approach (of using kmap_local_page() instead of page_address())
>> makes sense to me. Any reason not to go this way?
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-1-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>
>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-2-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>
>> [2]
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5d667258-b58b-3d28-3609-e7914c99b31b@intel.com/
>>
>> Ani
> 
> For the two patches you referenced the driver is the one allocating
> the pages. So in such a case the page_address should be acceptable.
> Specifically we are falling into alloc_page(GFP_ATOMIC) which should
> fall into the first case that Dave Hansen called out.

Right. However, I did run into a case in the chelsio inline crypto 
driver where it seems like the pages are allocated outside the driver. 
In such cases, kmap_local_page() would be the right approach, as the 
driver can't make assumptions on how the page was allocated.

... and this makes me wonder why not just use kmap_local_page() even in 
cases where the page allocation was done in the driver. IMO, this is 
simpler because

a) you don't have to care how a page was allocated. kmap_local_page() 
will create a temporary mapping if required, if not it just becomes a 
wrapper to page_address().

b) should a future patch change the allocation to be from highmem, you 
don't have to change a bunch of page_address() calls to be 
kmap_local_page().

Is using page_address() directly beneficial in some way?

Ani

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-22 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29  8:58 [PATCH] ixgbe: Use kmap_local_page in ixgbe_check_lbtest_frame() Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-29  8:58 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 10:10 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 10:10   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 15:17   ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 15:17     ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 15:21     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 15:21       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 15:25     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-30 15:25       ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-30 16:09       ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 16:09         ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 18:18         ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 18:18           ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 21:59           ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 21:59             ` Alexander Duyck
2022-07-01 15:36             ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-07-01 15:36               ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-22 20:07               ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-22 20:07                 ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-22 20:58                 ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-22 20:58                   ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-22 22:38                   ` Anirudh Venkataramanan [this message]
2022-09-22 22:38                     ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-23 15:05                     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-23 15:05                       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-23 17:59                       ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-23 17:59                         ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-30 22:03                       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-30 22:03                         ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-23 15:31                     ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-23 15:31                       ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-23 18:50                       ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-23 18:50                         ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-23 21:31                         ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-23 21:31                           ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 18:13     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 18:13       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-08-04 12:53 ` G, GurucharanX
2022-08-04 12:53   ` G, GurucharanX

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