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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:41:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <240c623b-2d8f-28d9-d349-d01e2c24b93a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160915223915.qjlnlvf2w7u37bu3@redhat.com>



On 08/02/2017 04:20, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> * Scatter/gather support
> 
> We can use 1 bit to chain s/g entries in a request, same as virtio 1.0:
> 
> /* This marks a buffer as continuing via the next field. */
> #define VRING_DESC_F_NEXT       1
> 
> Unlike virtio 1.0, all descriptors must have distinct ID values.
> 
> Also unlike virtio 1.0, use of this flag will be an optional feature
> (e.g. VIRTIO_F_DESC_NEXT) so both devices and drivers can opt out of it.

I would still prefer that we had  _either_ single-direct or
multiple-indirect descriptors, i.e. no VRING_DESC_F_NEXT.  I can propose
my idea for this in a separate message.

> * Batching descriptors:
> 
> virtio 1.0 allows passing a batch of descriptors in both directions, by
> incrementing the used/avail index by values > 1.  We can support this by
> chaining a list of descriptors through a bit the flags field.
> To allow use together with s/g, a different bit will be used.
> 
> #define VRING_DESC_F_BATCH_NEXT 0x0010
> 
> Batching works for both driver and device descriptors.

I'm still not sure how this would be useful.  It cannot be mandatory to
set the bit, I think, because you don't know when the host/guest is
going to read descriptors.  So both host and guest always have to look
ahead one element in any case.

> * Non power-of-2 ring sizes
> 
> As the ring simply wraps around, there's no reason to
> require ring size to be power of two.
> It can be made a separate feature though.

Power of 2 ring sizes are required in order to ignore the high bits of
the indices.  With non-power-of-2 sizes you are forced to keep the
indices less than the ring size.  Alternatively you can do this:

> * Event index would be in the range 0 to 2 * Queue Size
> (to detect wrap arounds) and wrap to 0 after that.
> 
> The assumption is that each side maintains an internal
> descriptor counter 0 to 2 * Queue Size that wraps to 0.
> In that case, interrupt triggers when counter reaches
> the given value.

but it seems more complicated than just forcing power-of-2 and ignoring
the high bits.

Thanks,

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-08 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-10  5:06 [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v3 Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-08 13:37 ` packed ring layout proposal v2 Christian Borntraeger
2017-02-09 17:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <20170209181955-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-09 18:27     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-02-08 17:41 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-02-08 19:59   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <20170208214435-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-09 15:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-02-09 16:11       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-02-09 18:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <20170209202203-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-10 11:32         ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]         ` <c229269b-1702-ffec-62e8-002c7c142904@redhat.com>
2017-02-10 15:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-10 16:17             ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]       ` <20170209171105.075a9d9c.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
2017-02-22 16:43         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20170222181333-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-03-07 15:53           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-03-07 20:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20170307223057-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-07-10 16:27               ` Amnon Ilan
2017-07-10 16:27               ` Amnon Ilan
2017-02-22  4:27 ` packed ring layout proposal - todo list Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20170222054336-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-02-22  9:19   ` [virtio-dev] " Gray, Mark D
     [not found]   ` <738D45BC1F695740A983F43CFE1B7EA94E93CA7E@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com>
2017-02-22 15:13     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-02-28  4:29   ` Yuanhan Liu
     [not found]   ` <20170228042943.GH18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01  1:07     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-08  7:09       ` Yuanhan Liu
     [not found]       ` <20170308070948.GC18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-08  7:56         ` Yuanhan Liu
     [not found]         ` <20170308075624.GF18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-29 12:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-01  7:30             ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-02-22 14:46 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Chien, Roger S
2017-02-28  5:02 ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-02-28  5:47 ` [RFC] packed (virtio-net) headers Yuanhan Liu
     [not found] ` <20170228050218.GI18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01  1:02   ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <20170301024951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
2017-03-01  3:57     ` Yuanhan Liu
     [not found]     ` <20170301035715.GP18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01  4:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-01  4:57         ` Yuanhan Liu
     [not found] ` <20170228054719.GJ18844@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2017-03-01  1:28   ` [RFC] packed (virtio-net) headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-16  6:00 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Lior Narkis
2017-07-18 16:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-18 16:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-19  7:41     ` Lior Narkis
2017-07-20 13:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-20 13:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-19  7:41     ` Lior Narkis
2017-07-16  6:00 ` Lior Narkis
2017-09-11  7:47 ` [virtio-dev] Re: packed ring layout proposal v3 Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:23   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-13  1:26     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-13  1:26     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:23   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-11  7:47 ` Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-12 16:20 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-14  8:23 ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-09-20  9:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Liang, Cunming
2017-09-20  9:11   ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-25 22:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-25 22:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-26 23:38     ` Steven Luong (sluong)
2017-09-27 23:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27 23:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28  9:44         ` Liang, Cunming
2017-10-01  4:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-01  4:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-04 12:39             ` Jens Freimann
2017-10-04 12:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-04 12:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10  9:56                 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-10-10  9:56                 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-10-11 12:22                   ` Jens Freimann
2017-09-28  9:44         ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28 21:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-26 23:38     ` Steven Luong (sluong)
2017-09-21 13:36 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-21 13:36   ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28 21:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-08  6:16 ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-08  6:16 ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-25 16:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-25 16:20     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-29  9:05     ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-29  9:05     ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-29 14:21       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-29 14:21         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-29 14:34         ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-29 14:34         ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-30  2:08           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30  2:08             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30  6:30             ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-30 16:30               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30 16:30                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30  6:30             ` Ilya Lesokhin

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