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From: "Dave Goodell (dgoodell)" <dgoodell-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michael Wang <yun.wang-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Hal Rosenstock
	<hal.rosenstock-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org"
	<hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Tucker
	<tom-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	Hoang-Nam Nguyen
	<hnguyen-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"raisch-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<raisch-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mike Marciniszyn
	<infinipath-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Eli Cohen <eli-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Faisal Latif
	<faisal.latif-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jack Morgenstein
	<jackm-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tom Talpey <tom-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:46:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2AA673EC-CC51-4E3B-BAF1-88B40D8CABB4@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB4PR05MB0863E9CCCD1BEA34F244EE2CB1EF0-xsq7jzH2t6llkovD9u25SNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>

On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> An ib_dev (or a port of) should be distinguished by 3 qualifiers:
> - The link layer:
> -- Ethernet (shared by iWARP, USNIC, and ROCE)
> -- Infiniband
> 
> - The transport (*)
> -- IBTA transport (shared by IB and ROCE)
> -- iWARP transport
> -- USNIC transport

I haven't been following this discussion as closely as I could have, but I want to clarify something about usNIC.  There are two "transports" used by usNIC:

1. The legacy RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC type, which indicates usNIC traffic will be Ethernet frames with Ethertype==0x8915 (like RoCE) but containing a custom, non-IBTA-sanctioned header format instead of a full GRH.  This "transport" is still supported by the usnic_verbs kernel driver but in practice is no longer in use.  For this "transport" there isn't really any clear L3/L4 header to point to.

2. The current RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC_UDP type, which indicates usNIC traffic will be standard UDP/IP/Ethernet packets.

> (*) Transport means both:
> - The L4 wire protocols (e.g., BTH+ headers of IBTA, optionally encapsulated by UDP in ROCEv2, or the iWARP stack)
> - The transport semantics (for example, there are slight semantic differences between IBTA and iWARP)

No usNIC hardware or software currently performs any hardware offload of RDMA features (only UD is supported), so there is no usNIC equivalent of the BTH+ to discuss right now.

-Dave

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From: "Dave Goodell (dgoodell)" <dgoodell@cisco.com>
To: Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>
Cc: Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"hal@dev.mellanox.co.il" <hal@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
	Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Hoang-Nam Nguyen <hnguyen@de.ibm.com>,
	"raisch@de.ibm.com" <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
	Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>,
	Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
	Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	Jack Morgenstein <jackm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
	"Or Gerlitz" <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
	"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:46:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2AA673EC-CC51-4E3B-BAF1-88B40D8CABB4@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB4PR05MB0863E9CCCD1BEA34F244EE2CB1EF0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com> wrote:

> An ib_dev (or a port of) should be distinguished by 3 qualifiers:
> - The link layer:
> -- Ethernet (shared by iWARP, USNIC, and ROCE)
> -- Infiniband
> 
> - The transport (*)
> -- IBTA transport (shared by IB and ROCE)
> -- iWARP transport
> -- USNIC transport

I haven't been following this discussion as closely as I could have, but I want to clarify something about usNIC.  There are two "transports" used by usNIC:

1. The legacy RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC type, which indicates usNIC traffic will be Ethernet frames with Ethertype==0x8915 (like RoCE) but containing a custom, non-IBTA-sanctioned header format instead of a full GRH.  This "transport" is still supported by the usnic_verbs kernel driver but in practice is no longer in use.  For this "transport" there isn't really any clear L3/L4 header to point to.

2. The current RDMA_TRANSPORT_USNIC_UDP type, which indicates usNIC traffic will be standard UDP/IP/Ethernet packets.

> (*) Transport means both:
> - The L4 wire protocols (e.g., BTH+ headers of IBTA, optionally encapsulated by UDP in ROCEv2, or the iWARP stack)
> - The transport semantics (for example, there are slight semantic differences between IBTA and iWARP)

No usNIC hardware or software currently performs any hardware offload of RDMA features (only UD is supported), so there is no usNIC equivalent of the BTH+ to discuss right now.

-Dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-22 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-20  8:28 [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:28 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:32 ` [PATCH v5 01/27] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:04   ` ira.weiny
     [not found]   ` <5534B981.1030302-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 15:02     ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 15:02       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]       ` <1429714975.45956.113.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 15:21         ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-22 15:21           ` Devesh Sharma
     [not found]           ` <EE7902D3F51F404C82415C4803930ACD5DC446F3-DWYeeINJQrxExQ8dmkPuX0M9+F4ksjoh@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 16:22             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:22               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:42           ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-23  7:13         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-23  7:13           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:05   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:05   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:35 ` [PATCH v5 07/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib Michael Wang
     [not found]   ` <5534BA43.6060400-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:06     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:06       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:06   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/27] IB/Verbs: Reform mcast related part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
     [not found]   ` <5534BACF.3080700-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:07     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:07       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:38 ` [PATCH v5 14/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() Michael Wang
     [not found]   ` <5534BAFF.5030107-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21  6:15     ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21  6:15       ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21  8:08       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:08     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:08       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:39 ` [PATCH v5 16/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:09   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() Michael Wang
     [not found]   ` <5534BB64.10402-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:09     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:09       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm() Michael Wang
     [not found]   ` <5534BB7B.4020601-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20 14:00     ` Steve Wise
2015-04-20 14:00       ` Steve Wise
2015-04-20 15:16       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 15:51         ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]           ` <5535209E.3020807-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20 16:19             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-20 16:19               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150420161927.GB7676-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20 16:39                 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-20 16:39                   ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-21  7:39             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21  7:39               ` Michael Wang
     [not found]               ` <5535FE9F.8070809-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21 15:06                 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-21 15:06                   ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-22  0:10   ` ira.weiny
     [not found] ` <5534B8C9.506-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20  8:32   ` [PATCH v5 02/27] IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:32     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534B9A0.9010303-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:05       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:05         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:33   ` [PATCH v5 04/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:33     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534B9E9.1020108-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-20 17:04       ` Hal Rosenstock
2015-04-20 17:04         ` Hal Rosenstock
2015-04-21  7:42         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:05     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:34   ` [PATCH v5 06/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:34     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:06     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:36   ` [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:36     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534BA7C.2010600-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21 23:19       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-21 23:19         ` ira.weiny
     [not found]         ` <20150421231958.GA15893-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  7:38           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  7:38             ` Michael Wang
     [not found]             ` <55375011.7010805-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 16:28               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:28                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23  9:25                 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:36   ` [PATCH v5 10/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:36     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:07     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:37   ` [PATCH v5 11/27] IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:37     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:07     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:38   ` [PATCH v5 13/27] IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr' Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:38     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534BAE8.9010805-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21  5:58       ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21  5:58         ` Devesh Sharma
     [not found]         ` <EE7902D3F51F404C82415C4803930ACD5DC44144-DWYeeINJQrxExQ8dmkPuX0M9+F4ksjoh@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21  8:05           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21  8:05             ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:08       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:08         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:38   ` [PATCH v5 15/27] IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:38     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534BB19.9000003-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:08       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:08         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:39   ` [PATCH v5 17/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:39     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:09     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:40   ` [PATCH v5 20/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:40     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:10     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:41   ` [PATCH v5 21/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:41     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:10     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:41   ` [PATCH v5 22/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:41     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:11     ` ira.weiny
     [not found]     ` <5534BBC2.4010902-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  5:40       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22  5:40         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150422054058.GB29609-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  8:49           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  8:49             ` Michael Wang
     [not found]             ` <553760A8.2090802-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 16:45               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:45                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:54                 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-23  9:31                 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 17:24               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 17:24                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20150422172455.GF19500-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-23  7:53                   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-23  7:53                     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:42   ` [PATCH v5 24/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:42     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:11     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:43   ` [PATCH v5 26/27] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:43     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534BC2E.40307-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:12       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:12         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:43   ` [PATCH v5 27/27] IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-20  8:43     ` Michael Wang
     [not found]     ` <5534BC47.6080706-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  0:13       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  0:13         ` ira.weiny
2015-04-21 23:36   ` [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Liran Liss
2015-04-21 23:36     ` Liran Liss
     [not found]     ` <DB4PR05MB0863E9CCCD1BEA34F244EE2CB1EF0-xsq7jzH2t6llkovD9u25SNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  2:41       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  2:41         ` ira.weiny
     [not found]         ` <20150422024123.GA18675-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22  8:32           ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  8:32             ` Michael Wang
     [not found]         ` <DB4PR05MB086335365371E756B789FE84B1EE0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2015-04-22 16:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <DB4PR05MB08633B2B2E3BA32752EE8098B1EC0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]               ` <DB4PR05MB08633B2B2E3BA32752EE8098B1EC0-xsq7jzH2t6llkovD9u25SNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 16:42                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-24 16:42                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20150424164226.GB9305-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-27 19:10                     ` ira.weiny
2015-04-27 19:10                       ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:40         ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-22 16:40           ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-24 14:49           ` Liran Liss
2015-04-24 14:49             ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 14:59       ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 14:59         ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 16:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-23  8:36           ` Michael Wang
     [not found]         ` <1429714792.45956.110.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-22 17:10           ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 17:10             ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23  9:36             ` Michael Wang
     [not found]             ` <DB4PR05MB08630282DEFFFB181A525B67B1EC0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]               ` <DB4PR05MB08630282DEFFFB181A525B67B1EC0-xsq7jzH2t6llkovD9u25SNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-27 20:58                 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-27 20:58                   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:46       ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell) [this message]
2015-04-22 16:46         ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-04-22  8:30     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:16       ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 16:16         ` Liran Liss
2015-04-23  7:33         ` Michael Wang
     [not found]           ` <5538A034.4030904-EIkl63zCoXaH+58JC4qpiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 14:44             ` Liran Liss
2015-04-24 14:44               ` Liran Liss
     [not found]               ` <DB4PR05MB08635737AF7A40F3F82B7628B1EC0-xsq7jzH2t6llkovD9u25SNqRiQSDpxhJvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-24 15:07                 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-24 15:07                   ` Michael Wang
2015-04-27 19:22               ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:42 ` [PATCH v5 23/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge() Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:11   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20  8:43 ` [PATCH v5 25/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah() Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:11   ` ira.weiny
2015-04-21  5:41 ` [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21  5:41   ` Devesh Sharma
     [not found]   ` <EE7902D3F51F404C82415C4803930ACD5DC44113-DWYeeINJQrxExQ8dmkPuX0M9+F4ksjoh@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-21  7:46     ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21  7:46       ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 11:03       ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 11:03         ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 15:56         ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22  0:28 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22  7:44   ` Michael Wang

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