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From: "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
To: "Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	"Ismail, Mustafa" <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	"jiri@nvidia.com" <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 07/22] RDMA/irdma: Register an auxiliary driver and implement private channel OPs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:02:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2fffd43a6c0b4d949628f2c0478505f9@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <236bd48f-ad16-1502-3194-b3e48ca2de97@intel.com>

> Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/22] RDMA/irdma: Register an auxiliary driver and
> implement private channel OPs
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2021 9:29 PM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 05:01:40PM -0800, Jacob Keller wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/25/2021 4:39 PM, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/22] RDMA/irdma: Register an auxiliary driver
> >>>> and implement private channel OPs
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 03:45:51PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 05:48:12PM -0600, Shiraz Saleem wrote:
> >>>>>> From: Mustafa Ismail <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Register irdma as an auxiliary driver which can attach to
> >>>>>> auxiliary RDMA devices from Intel PCI netdev drivers i40e and
> >>>>>> ice. Implement the private channel ops, add basic devlink support
> >>>>>> in the driver and register net notifiers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Devlink part in "the RDMA client" is interesting thing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The idea behind auxiliary bus was that PCI logic will stay at one
> >>>>> place and devlink considered as the tool to manage that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, this doesn't seem right, I don't think these auxiliary bus
> >>>> objects should have devlink instances, or at least someone from
> >>>> devlink land should approve of the idea.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> In our model, we have one auxdev (for RDMA) per PCI device function
> >>> owned by netdev driver and one devlink instance per auxdev. Plus there is an
> Intel netdev driver for each HW generation.
> >>> Moving the devlink logic to the PCI netdev driver would mean
> >>> duplicating the same set of RDMA params in each Intel netdev driver.
> >>> Additionally, plumbing RDMA specific params in the netdev driver sort of
> seems misplaced to me.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I agree that plumbing these parameters at the PCI side in the devlink
> >> of the parent device is weird. They don't seem to be parameters that
> >> the parent driver cares about.
> >>
> >> Maybe there is another mechanism that makes more sense? To me it is a
> >> bit like if we were plumbing netdev specific paramters into devlink
> >> instead of trying to expose them through netdevice specific
> >> interfaces like iproute2 or ethtool.
> >
> > I'm far from being expert in devlink, but for me separation is following:
> > 1. devlink - operates on physical device level, when PCI device already
> initialized.
> > 2. ethtool - changes needed to be done on netdev layer.
> > 3. ip - upper layer of the netdev
> > 4. rdmatool - RDMA specific when IB device already exists.
> >
> > And the ENABLE_ROCE/ENABLE_RDMA thing shouldn't be in the RDMA driver
> > at all, because it is physical device property which once toggled will
> > prohibit creation of respective aux device.
> >
> 
> Ok. I guess I hadn't looked quite as close at the specifics here. I agree that
> ENABLE_RDMA should go in the PF devlink.
> 
> If there's any other sort of RDMA-specific configuration that ties to the IB device,
> that should go somehow into rdmatool, rather than devlink. And thus: I think I
> agree, we don't want the IB device or the aux device to create a devlink instance.
> 

I think rdma-tool might be too late for this type of param. We need the protocol info (iWARP vs RoCE)
early on driver probe.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-22 23:48 [PATCH 00/22] Add Intel Ethernet Protocol Driver for RDMA (irdma) Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 01/22] iidc: Introduce iidc.h Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 02/22] ice: Initialize RDMA support Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 03/22] ice: Implement iidc operations Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 04/22] ice: Register auxiliary device to provide RDMA Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 19:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-05 15:23     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-05 15:27       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 05/22] i40e: Prep i40e header for aux bus conversion Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 06/22] i40e: Register auxiliary devices to provide RDMA Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 07/22] RDMA/irdma: Register an auxiliary driver and implement private channel OPs Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-24 13:45   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-25 13:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-25 20:52       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-26  0:39       ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-26  0:47         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-26  0:57           ` Keller, Jacob E
2021-01-26  1:01         ` Jacob Keller
2021-01-26  1:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-27  0:42             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-27  2:44               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-30  1:19                 ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-26  5:29           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-26 22:07             ` Jacob Keller
2021-01-27  1:02               ` Saleem, Shiraz [this message]
2021-01-26  0:39     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-25 18:42   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-26  0:42     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-26  0:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-27  0:41         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-27 12:18           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-27 22:17             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-27 23:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-28  5:41                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-30  1:19                   ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-01  6:09                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-01 19:18                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-02  0:40                       ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-02  1:06                         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-02 17:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-02 19:42                             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-02 23:17                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-01 19:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-26  5:37     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-30  1:19       ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-01 19:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-25 19:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-30  1:19     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 08/22] RDMA/irdma: Implement device initialization definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 09/22] RDMA/irdma: Implement HW Admin Queue OPs Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 19:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-27  0:41     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-27  2:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-30  1:18         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 10/22] RDMA/irdma: Add HMC backing store setup functions Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 11/22] RDMA/irdma: Add privileged UDA queue implementation Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 12/22] RDMA/irdma: Add QoS definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 13/22] RDMA/irdma: Add connection manager Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 14/22] RDMA/irdma: Add PBLE resource manager Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 15/22] RDMA/irdma: Implement device supported verb APIs Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-24 14:18   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-27  1:04     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 16/22] RDMA/irdma: Add RoCEv2 UD OP support Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 17/22] RDMA/irdma: Add user/kernel shared libraries Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 18/22] RDMA/irdma: Add miscellaneous utility definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 19:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 19/22] RDMA/irdma: Add dynamic tracing for CM Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 20/22] RDMA/irdma: Add ABI definitions Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 19:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-30  1:18     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-02-01 19:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-05 20:12         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 21/22] RDMA/irdma: Add irdma Kconfig/Makefile and remove i40iw Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 18:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-26  0:39     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2021-01-26  5:47     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-01-22 23:48 ` [PATCH 22/22] RDMA/irdma: Update MAINTAINERS file Shiraz Saleem
2021-01-25 13:29 ` [PATCH 00/22] Add Intel Ethernet Protocol Driver for RDMA (irdma) Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-25 18:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-26  0:39   ` Saleem, Shiraz

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