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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@cogentembedded.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	artemi.ivanov@cogentembedded.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:46:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3158203.Yc9Qgx82xo@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <412396ac-4535-08a3-e4c7-dd8d0078a518@cogentembedded.com>

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 5:30:19 PM CET Nikita Yushchenko wrote:
> >> For OF platforms, this is called via of_dma_configure(), that checks
> >> dma-ranges of node that is *parent* for host bridge. Host bridge
> >> currently does not control this at all.
> > 
> > We need to think about this a bit. Is it actually the PCI host
> > bridge that limits the ranges here, or the bus that it is connected
> > to. In the latter case, the caller needs to be adapted to handle
> > both.
> 
> In r-car case, I'm not sure what is the source of limitation at physical
> level.
> 
> pcie-rcar driver configures ranges for PCIe inbound transactions based
> on dma-ranges property in it's device tree node. In the current device
> tree for this platform, that only contains one range and it is in lower
> memory.
> 
> NVMe driver tries i/o to kmalloc()ed area. That returns 0x5xxxxxxxx
> addresses here. As a quick experiment, I tried to add second range to
> pcie-rcar's dma-ranges to cover 0x5xxxxxxxx area - but that did not make
> DMA to high addresses working.
> 
> My current understanding is that host bridge hardware module can't
> handle inbound transactions to PCI addresses above 4G - and this
> limitations comes from host bridge itself.
> 
> I've read somewhere in the lists that pcie-rcar hardware is "32-bit" -
> but I don't remember where, and don't know lowlevel details. Maybe
> somebody from linux-renesas can elaborate?

Just a guess, but if the inbound translation windows in the host
bridge are wider than 32-bit, the reason for setting up a single
32-bit window is probably because that is what the parent bus supports.

> >> In current device trees no dma-ranges is defined for nodes that are
> >> parents to pci host bridges. This will make of_dma_configure() to fall
> >> back to 32-bit size for all devices on all current platforms.  Thus
> >> applying this patch will immediately break 64-bit dma masks on all
> >> hardware that supports it.
> > 
> > No, it won't break it, it will just fall back to swiotlb for all the
> > ones that are lacking the dma-ranges property. I think this is correct
> > behavior.
> 
> I'd say - for all ones that have parents without dma-ranges property.
> 
> As of 4.10-rc2, I see only two definitions of wide parent dma-ranges
> under arch/arm64/boot/dts/ - in amd/amd-seattle-soc.dtsi and
> apm/apm-storm.dtsi
> 
> Are these the only arm64 platforms that can to DMA to high addresses?
> I'm not arm64 expert but I'd be surprised if that's the case.

It's likely that a few others also do high DMA, but a lot of arm64
chips are actually derived from earlier 32-bit chips and don't
even support any RAM above 4GB, as well as having a lot of 32-bit
DMA masters.

> >> Also related: dma-ranges property used by several pci host bridges is
> >> *not* compatible with "legacy" dma-ranges parsed by of_get_dma_range() -
> >> former uses additional flags word at beginning.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate? Do we have PCI host bridges that use wrongly formatted
> > dma-ranges properties?
> 
> of_dma_get_range() expects <dma_addr cpu_addr size> format.
> 
> pcie-rcar.c, pci-rcar-gen2.c, pci-xgene.c and pcie-iproc.c from
> drivers/pci/host/ all parse dma-ranges using of_pci_range_parser that
> uses <flags pci-addr cpu-addr size> format - i.e. something different
> from what of_dma_get_range() uses.

The "dma_addr" here is expressed in terms of #address-cells of the
bus it is in, and that is "3" in case of PCI, where the first 32-bit
word is a bit pattern containing various things, and the other two
cells are a 64-bit address. I think this is correct, but we may
need to add some special handling for parsing PCI host bridges
in of_dma_get_range, to ensure we actually look at translations for
the memory space.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:46:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3158203.Yc9Qgx82xo@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <412396ac-4535-08a3-e4c7-dd8d0078a518@cogentembedded.com>

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 5:30:19 PM CET Nikita Yushchenko wrote:
> >> For OF platforms, this is called via of_dma_configure(), that checks
> >> dma-ranges of node that is *parent* for host bridge. Host bridge
> >> currently does not control this at all.
> > 
> > We need to think about this a bit. Is it actually the PCI host
> > bridge that limits the ranges here, or the bus that it is connected
> > to. In the latter case, the caller needs to be adapted to handle
> > both.
> 
> In r-car case, I'm not sure what is the source of limitation at physical
> level.
> 
> pcie-rcar driver configures ranges for PCIe inbound transactions based
> on dma-ranges property in it's device tree node. In the current device
> tree for this platform, that only contains one range and it is in lower
> memory.
> 
> NVMe driver tries i/o to kmalloc()ed area. That returns 0x5xxxxxxxx
> addresses here. As a quick experiment, I tried to add second range to
> pcie-rcar's dma-ranges to cover 0x5xxxxxxxx area - but that did not make
> DMA to high addresses working.
> 
> My current understanding is that host bridge hardware module can't
> handle inbound transactions to PCI addresses above 4G - and this
> limitations comes from host bridge itself.
> 
> I've read somewhere in the lists that pcie-rcar hardware is "32-bit" -
> but I don't remember where, and don't know lowlevel details. Maybe
> somebody from linux-renesas can elaborate?

Just a guess, but if the inbound translation windows in the host
bridge are wider than 32-bit, the reason for setting up a single
32-bit window is probably because that is what the parent bus supports.

> >> In current device trees no dma-ranges is defined for nodes that are
> >> parents to pci host bridges. This will make of_dma_configure() to fall
> >> back to 32-bit size for all devices on all current platforms.  Thus
> >> applying this patch will immediately break 64-bit dma masks on all
> >> hardware that supports it.
> > 
> > No, it won't break it, it will just fall back to swiotlb for all the
> > ones that are lacking the dma-ranges property. I think this is correct
> > behavior.
> 
> I'd say - for all ones that have parents without dma-ranges property.
> 
> As of 4.10-rc2, I see only two definitions of wide parent dma-ranges
> under arch/arm64/boot/dts/ - in amd/amd-seattle-soc.dtsi and
> apm/apm-storm.dtsi
> 
> Are these the only arm64 platforms that can to DMA to high addresses?
> I'm not arm64 expert but I'd be surprised if that's the case.

It's likely that a few others also do high DMA, but a lot of arm64
chips are actually derived from earlier 32-bit chips and don't
even support any RAM above 4GB, as well as having a lot of 32-bit
DMA masters.

> >> Also related: dma-ranges property used by several pci host bridges is
> >> *not* compatible with "legacy" dma-ranges parsed by of_get_dma_range() -
> >> former uses additional flags word at beginning.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate? Do we have PCI host bridges that use wrongly formatted
> > dma-ranges properties?
> 
> of_dma_get_range() expects <dma_addr cpu_addr size> format.
> 
> pcie-rcar.c, pci-rcar-gen2.c, pci-xgene.c and pcie-iproc.c from
> drivers/pci/host/ all parse dma-ranges using of_pci_range_parser that
> uses <flags pci-addr cpu-addr size> format - i.e. something different
> from what of_dma_get_range() uses.

The "dma_addr" here is expressed in terms of #address-cells of the
bus it is in, and that is "3" in case of PCI, where the first 32-bit
word is a bit pattern containing various things, and the other two
cells are a 64-bit address. I think this is correct, but we may
need to add some special handling for parsing PCI host bridges
in of_dma_get_range, to ensure we actually look at translations for
the memory space.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-04 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-29 20:45 [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-29 20:45 ` Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-29 20:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcar-pcie: set host bridge's " Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-29 20:45   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-29 21:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit " Arnd Bergmann
2017-02-16 16:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-29 21:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-30  9:46 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-12-30  9:46   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-12-30 10:06   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-12-30 10:06     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-03 18:44 ` Will Deacon
2017-01-03 18:44   ` Will Deacon
2017-01-03 19:00   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 19:00     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 19:01   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 19:01     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 19:01     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 20:13     ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-01-03 20:13       ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-01-03 20:13       ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-01-03 20:23       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 20:23         ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 20:23         ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 23:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 23:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 23:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04  6:24     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04  6:24       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04  6:24       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 13:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 13:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 13:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 14:30         ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 14:30           ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 14:30           ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 14:46           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2017-01-04 14:46             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 15:29             ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 15:29               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 15:29               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 11:10               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-06 11:10                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-06 11:10                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-06 13:47                 ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 13:47                   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 13:47                   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:38                   ` [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:38                     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:45                   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:45                     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-08  7:09                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-08  7:09                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-09  6:56                       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09  6:56                         ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 14:05                   ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-09 14:05                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-09 14:05                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-09 20:34                     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:34                       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:34                       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:34                       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:57                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-09 20:57                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-09 20:57                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-09 20:57                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  6:47                         ` NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10  7:07                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:07                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:07                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:07                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:31                             ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10  7:31                               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10  7:31                               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10  7:31                               ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10 11:01                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 11:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 11:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 11:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:48                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 15:02                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:02                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:02                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:02                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 10:09                                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 10:09                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 10:09                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 10:09                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 11:56                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 11:56                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 11:56                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 11:56                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 13:07                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12 13:07                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12 13:07                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-12 13:07                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 10:54                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:54                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:54                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:54                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47                         ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:44                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:44                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:44                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 14:44                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 15:00                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:00                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:00                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 15:00                               ` Arnd Bergmann

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