* Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous?
@ 2016-11-11 18:43 Sage Weil
2016-11-11 20:22 ` Blair Bethwaite
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From: Sage Weil @ 2016-11-11 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ
Cc: ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ
Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are
centos 7.x
ubuntu 16.04 (xenial)
ubuntu 14.04 (trusty)
We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version).
Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial
support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide
an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and
luminous. Our options are
1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both
2) stop testing trusty, but still build packages
3) stop testing or building for trusty
Preferences?
sage
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? 2016-11-11 18:43 Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? Sage Weil @ 2016-11-11 20:22 ` Blair Bethwaite [not found] ` <CA+z5DszZp-j450Q1HyfQQtEx9tqeazJ=PqnUkmwFND_kMrvk-g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1611111837410.29579-ie3vfNGmdjePKud3HExfWg@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Blair Bethwaite @ 2016-11-11 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sage Weil; +Cc: Ceph Development, Ceph-User, ceph-maintainers Worth considering OpenStack and Ubuntu cloudarchive release cycles here. Mitaka is the release where all Ubuntu OpenStack users need to upgrade from Trusty to Xenial - so far Mitaka and now Newton deployments are still in the minority (see the OpenStack user/deployment survey for the data) and I expect they will remain so until at least Ocata. So if you pick #2 or #3 it'd be best to still keep building and testing the client packages for Trusty. Cheers, Blair On 11 Nov 2016 10:45 AM, "Sage Weil" <sweil@redhat.com> wrote: Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are centos 7.x ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and luminous. Our options are 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both 2) stop testing trusty, but still build packages 3) stop testing or building for trusty Preferences? sage -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? [not found] ` <CA+z5DszZp-j450Q1HyfQQtEx9tqeazJ=PqnUkmwFND_kMrvk-g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2016-11-14 10:59 ` Özhan Rüzgar Karaman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Özhan Rüzgar Karaman @ 2016-11-14 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Blair Bethwaite Cc: Sage Weil, Ceph Development, Ceph-User, ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1935 bytes --] Hi; There are still lots of people who are using 14.04 and its also supported till 2019 so +1 for option 1. Thanks Özhan On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Blair Bethwaite <blair.bethwaite-Re5JQEeQqe8@public.gmane.orgm > wrote: > Worth considering OpenStack and Ubuntu cloudarchive release cycles > here. Mitaka is the release where all Ubuntu OpenStack users need to > upgrade from Trusty to Xenial - so far Mitaka and now Newton > deployments are still in the minority (see the OpenStack > user/deployment survey for the data) and I expect they will remain so > until at least Ocata. So if you pick #2 or #3 it'd be best to still > keep building and testing the client packages for Trusty. > > Cheers, > Blair > > On 11 Nov 2016 10:45 AM, "Sage Weil" <sweil-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are > > centos 7.x > ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) > ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) > > We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). > > Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial > support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide > an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and > luminous. Our options are > > 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both > > 2) stop testing trusty, but still build packages > > 3) stop testing or building for trusty > > Preferences? > sage > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2905 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 178 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1611111837410.29579-ie3vfNGmdjePKud3HExfWg@public.gmane.org> @ 2016-11-11 20:10 ` Randy Orr 2016-11-14 11:08 ` Tomasz Kuzemko 2016-11-14 14:24 ` Sage Weil 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Randy Orr @ 2016-11-11 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sage Weil Cc: ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ, ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1197 bytes --] Hi, I would prefer option 1 please. It wouldn't be the end of the world if 14.04 support went away, but definitely inconvenient. EOL for Ubuntu 14.04 is April 2019 - I would expect to see many people still running it for quite some time. Thanks, Randy On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Sage Weil <sweil-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are > > centos 7.x > ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) > ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) > > We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). > > Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial > support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide > an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and > luminous. Our options are > > 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both > > 2) stop testing trusty, but still build packages > > 3) stop testing or building for trusty > > Preferences? > sage > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1863 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 178 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1611111837410.29579-ie3vfNGmdjePKud3HExfWg@public.gmane.org> 2016-11-11 20:10 ` Randy Orr @ 2016-11-14 11:08 ` Tomasz Kuzemko 2016-11-14 14:24 ` Sage Weil 2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Tomasz Kuzemko @ 2016-11-14 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sage Weil, ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ Cc: ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1091 bytes --] I vote for 1. until Ubuntu 14.04 is supported. On 11.11.2016 19:43, Sage Weil wrote: > Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are > > centos 7.x > ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) > ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) > > We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). > > Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial > support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide > an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and > luminous. Our options are > > 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both > > 2) stop testing trusty, but still build packages > > 3) stop testing or building for trusty > > Preferences? > sage > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Tomasz Kuzemko tomasz.kuzemko-Rm6v+N6rxxBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 490 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 178 bytes --] _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users-idqoXFIVOFJgJs9I8MT0rw@public.gmane.org http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.11.1611111837410.29579-ie3vfNGmdjePKud3HExfWg@public.gmane.org> 2016-11-11 20:10 ` Randy Orr 2016-11-14 11:08 ` Tomasz Kuzemko @ 2016-11-14 14:24 ` Sage Weil 2016-11-16 18:40 ` Yuri Weinstein 2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Sage Weil @ 2016-11-14 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ Cc: ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Sage Weil wrote: > Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are > > centos 7.x > ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) > ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) > > We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). > > Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial > support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide > an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and > luminous. Our options are > > 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both Sounds like we'll keep trusty around for a while. Thanks, everyone! sage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? 2016-11-14 14:24 ` Sage Weil @ 2016-11-16 18:40 ` Yuri Weinstein [not found] ` <CAMMFjmE_S0ew2h7wWFF2wQccjffX7iGiJS=sxgkvOcvv86DG6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Yuri Weinstein @ 2016-11-16 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sage Weil Cc: ceph-maintainers, Development, Ceph, ceph-users, Cerza, Zack, David Galloway, Mick, Dan, Vasu Kulkarni Sage, We had discussed xenial support in sepia today and right now jobs asking for it from smithi and mira nodes will fail because there are no bare-metals provisioned for it. The question is - how do we split nodes between 14.04, 16.04 and centos ? Thx YuriW On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net> wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Sage Weil wrote: >> Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are >> >> centos 7.x >> ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) >> ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) >> >> We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). >> >> Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial >> support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide >> an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and >> luminous. Our options are >> >> 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both > > Sounds like we'll keep trusty around for a while. Thanks, everyone! > > sage > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Can we drop ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) for kraken and lumninous? [not found] ` <CAMMFjmE_S0ew2h7wWFF2wQccjffX7iGiJS=sxgkvOcvv86DG6Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2016-11-16 20:48 ` Sage Weil 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sage Weil @ 2016-11-16 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yuri Weinstein Cc: Vasu Kulkarni, David Galloway, ceph-maintainers-Qp0mS5GaXlQ, Cerza, Zack, Development, Ceph, ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ On Wed, 16 Nov 2016, Yuri Weinstein wrote: > Sage, > > We had discussed xenial support in sepia today and right now jobs > asking for it from smithi and mira nodes will fail because there are > no bare-metals provisioned for it. > > The question is - how do we split nodes between 14.04, 16.04 and centos ? Yeah. I thought we'd already split the bar emetal boxes between trusty and xenial.. sorry! s > > Thx > YuriW > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Sage Weil wrote: > >> Currently the distros we use for upstream testing are > >> > >> centos 7.x > >> ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) > >> ubuntu 14.04 (trusty) > >> > >> We also do some basic testing for Debian 8 and Fedora (some old version). > >> > >> Jewel was the first release that had native systemd and full xenial > >> support, so it's helpful to have both 14.04 and 16.04 supported to provide > >> an upgrade path. But I think we can safely drop 14.04 now for kraken and > >> luminous. Our options are > >> > >> 1) keep testing on xenial and trusty, and keep building packages for both > > > > Sounds like we'll keep trusty around for a while. Thanks, everyone! > > > > sage > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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