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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: QEMU PIC indirection patch for in-kernel APIC work
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:12:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4613EA84.3090404@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8FFF7E42E93CC646B632AB40643802A8025B96AA-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

Nakajima, Jun wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Nakajima, Jun wrote:
>>     
>>> Most of H/W-virtualization capable processors out there don't support
>>> that feature today. I think the decision (kvm or qemu) should be done
>>> based on performance data. I'm not worried about maintenance issues;
>>> the APIC code is not expected to change frequently. I'm a bit
>>> worried about extra complexity caused by such split, though.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> In principle we could measure the performance cost today with the
>> pv-net driver; however it still does a lot of copies which could be
>> eliminated. 
>>
>>     
>>> BTW, I see CPU utilization of qemu is almost always 99% in the top
>>> command when I run kernel build in an x86-64 Linux guest.
>>>
>>>       
>> Isn't that expected? if your guest image is mostly cached in the host,
>> the guest would have nothing to block on.
>>     
>
> I compared the performance on Xen and KVM for kernel build using the
> same guest image. Looks like KVM was (kvm-17) three times slower as far
> as we tested, and that high load of qemu was one of the symptoms. We are
> looking at the shadow code, but the load of qemu looks very high.

The KVM IDE emulation is much slower than Xen's.  Part of that is the 
new AIO framework.

It may be worth modifying the qemu_aio_init() function in block-raw.c to 
increase the AIO thread count, and trying with a SCSI disk.  The SCSI 
disk with > 1 AIO thread is pretty good.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>  I
> remember we had similar problems in Xen before, but those were fixed.
> Someone should take a look at the qemu side.
>
> Jun
> ---
> Intel Open Source Technology Center
>
>   


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-02 11:46 QEMU PIC indirection patch for in-kernel APIC work Gregory Haskins
     [not found] ` <4610A6A9.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04  6:53   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46134B74.1080004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 14:20       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <4613B438.60107-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 14:39           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <4613B89F.8090806-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 14:55               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <4613BC6B.1070708-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 15:06                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <4613BF07.50606-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 15:36                       ` Nakajima, Jun
     [not found]                         ` <8FFF7E42E93CC646B632AB40643802A8025B9580-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 15:47                           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                             ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B318E96-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 15:53                               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                 ` <4613C9EE.5030600-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:05                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <4613CCD1.2070702-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:20                                       ` Nakajima, Jun
     [not found]                                         ` <8FFF7E42E93CC646B632AB40643802A8025B962E-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:27                                           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                                             ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B318EDB-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:43                                               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                                 ` <4613D596.7080201-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:54                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-04 16:32                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                             ` <4613D30E.7030905-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:48                                               ` Nakajima, Jun
     [not found]                                                 ` <8FFF7E42E93CC646B632AB40643802A8025B96AA-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:58                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                     ` <4613D93A.5020902-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:09                                                       ` Nakajima, Jun
     [not found]                                                         ` <8FFF7E42E93CC646B632AB40643802A8025B970D-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:33                                                           ` Dor Laor
2007-04-04 18:12                                                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-04-04 15:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                         ` <4613C993.9020405-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:02                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <4613CC01.1090500-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:09                               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                 ` <4613CDB2.4000903-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:19                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <4613D001.3040606-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 20:01                                       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                         ` <20070404200112.GA6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 20:24                                           ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                             ` <4614098F.2030307-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:21                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 23:19                                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-04-05  7:17                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-06  1:02                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-08  5:36                                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                         ` <46187F4E.1080807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-08  9:04                                                           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-04-09  2:50                                                           ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                             ` <1176087018.11664.65.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-09  7:10                                                               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                 ` <4619E6DC.3010804-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-09  9:46                                                                   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1176111984.11664.90.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-09 13:38                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                         ` <461A41CA.9080201-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-10  8:07                                                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10  8:19                                                                             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                               ` <461B48A8.1060904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-10  8:58                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10 11:21                                                                                   ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <461B7334.8090807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-10 11:50                                                                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-04-10 12:17                                                                                         ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <461B8069.6070007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-10 12:30                                                                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <20070410123034.GA11493-9fLWQ3dKdXwox3rIn2DAYQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-10 12:49                                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-11  3:53                                                                         ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                                           ` <1176263593.26372.84.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11  4:26                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                               ` <461C6360.1060908-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 13:23                                                                                 ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <1176297794.14322.72.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 14:28                                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <461CF098.3090003-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 23:30                                                                                         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <1176334200.14322.133.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12  3:32                                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-16  0:22                                                                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-04-16  5:13                                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <1175728768.12230.593.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05  9:30                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                       ` <20070405093033.GC25448-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05  9:58                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-05 10:26                                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:26                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4614DCE1.70905-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 11:36                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06  1:16                                                                   ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-04-06 18:59                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 10:55                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 14:32                                                       ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-04-06 10:37                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 11:07                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 22:07                                               ` Dor Laor
2007-04-05  6:54                                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-05  6:40                                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-04 16:23                                   ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                                     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B318ED4-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:48                                       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                         ` <4613D6CD.6060209-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 20:07                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:50                                       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                         ` <0E6FE5D295DE5B4B8D9070C26A227987E0D1EC-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 13:59                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                             ` <461500B5.4080102-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 14:52                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                 ` <0E6FE5D295DE5B4B8D9070C26A227987F2444B-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 15:01                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                     ` <46150F4F.4030505-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 15:16                                                       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                         ` <0E6FE5D295DE5B4B8D9070C26A227987F24452-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 15:26                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-04-05 15:22                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-04-05 14:41                                           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                                             ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B319509-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 14:48                                               ` Dong, Eddie
2007-04-05 14:57                                               ` Dong, Eddie
2007-04-04 17:51           ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]             ` <46139F39.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 18:19               ` Anthony Liguori

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