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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH][RFC] SVM: Add Support for Nested Paging in AMD Fam16 CPUs
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:08:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <479DB7BE.4040106@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <479D4A0C.5080208@goop.org>

Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>>  I find it non-descriptive, and it reminds me of another hypervisor.  
>> I suggest 'tlp' for two-level paging.
>>     
>
> That has its own ambiguity; without other context it reads like 
> "two-level pagetable".  Anyway, using the same term for the same thing 
> is not a bad idea.
>
>   

What annoys me about hap and hvm is that it comes from a 
paravirtualization viewpoint, where pv is the default model, and 
hardware extensions are an optional addition.  With kvm it's the other 
way round: the base model is full virtualization, and paravirtualization 
is an optional add-on.  I'd rather call traditional shadow paging 
"software-assisted paging".


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] SVM: Add Support for Nested Paging in AMD Fam16 CPUs
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:08:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <479DB7BE.4040106@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <479D4A0C.5080208-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>

Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>>  I find it non-descriptive, and it reminds me of another hypervisor.  
>> I suggest 'tlp' for two-level paging.
>>     
>
> That has its own ambiguity; without other context it reads like 
> "two-level pagetable".  Anyway, using the same term for the same thing 
> is not a bad idea.
>
>   

What annoys me about hap and hvm is that it comes from a 
paravirtualization viewpoint, where pv is the default model, and 
hardware extensions are an optional addition.  With kvm it's the other 
way round: the base model is full virtualization, and paravirtualization 
is an optional add-on.  I'd rather call traditional shadow paging 
"software-assisted paging".


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-25 20:53 [PATCH][RFC] SVM: Add Support for Nested Paging in AMD Fam16 CPUs Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 1/8] SVM: move feature detection to hardware setup code Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 2/8] SVM: add detection of Nested Paging feature Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 3/8] SVM: add module parameter to disable Nested Paging Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 21:35   ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 21:35     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 22:10     ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 22:10       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26 18:38       ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-26 18:38         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-26  1:47   ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH 3/8] SVM: add module parameter to disable NestedPaging Nakajima, Jun
2008-01-26  1:47     ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-01-26  7:25     ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26  7:25       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26  9:49       ` [kvm-devel] " Alexey Eremenko
2008-01-26  9:49         ` Alexey Eremenko
2008-01-26 10:06         ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26 10:06           ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26 16:36         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-26 16:36           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-26 18:23       ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 4/8] X86: export information about NPT to generic x86 code Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 21:37   ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 21:37     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 21:40     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 21:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-27  8:40   ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  8:40     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 5/8] MMU: make the __nonpaging_map function generic Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 6/8] X86: export the load_pdptrs() function to modules Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 7/8] MMU: add HAP support to the KVM MMU Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53 ` [PATCH 8/8] SVM: add support for Nested Paging Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 20:53   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27  8:52   ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  8:52     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  9:41     ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27  9:41       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27  9:51       ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  9:51         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-27 10:05         ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27 10:05           ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27 10:24           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-27 10:24             ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-25 21:32 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH][RFC] SVM: Add Support for Nested Paging in AMD Fam16 CPUs Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 21:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-01-25 22:47   ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-25 22:47     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-26  1:57 ` [kvm-devel] " Nakajima, Jun
2008-01-26  1:57   ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-01-27  8:57 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  8:57   ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-27  9:51   ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-01-27  9:51     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-01-28  3:20   ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-28  3:20     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-28 11:08     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-01-28 11:08       ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-07 12:09   ` [kvm-devel] " Joerg Roedel
2008-02-07 12:09     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-02-10 10:35     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-02-10 10:35       ` Avi Kivity

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