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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: "Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao" <fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	fernando@kic.ac.jp, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: vfs: Add MS_FLUSHONFSYNC mount flag
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:13:37 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <499458C1.90105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234434970.15433.4.camel@sebastian.kern.oss.ntt.co.jp>

Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao wrote:
> This mount flag will be used to determine whether the block device's write
> cache should be flush or not on fsync()/fdatasync().
> 
> Signed-off-by: Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>
> ---

Again, apologies for chiming in late.

But wouldn't it be better to make this a block device property rather
than a new filesystem mount option?

That way the filesystem can always do "the right thing" and call the
blkdev flush on fsync.

The block device *could* choose to ignore this in hardware if it knows
it's built with a nonvolatile write cache or if it has no write cache.

Somewhere in the middle, if an administrator knows they have a UPS they
trust and hardware that stays connected to it, they could tune the bdev
to ignore these flush requests.

Also that way if you have 8 partitions on a battery-backed blockdev, you
can tune it once, instead of needing to mount all 8 filesystems with the
new option.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
-Eric

> diff -urNp linux-2.6.29-rc3-orig/fs/namespace.c linux-2.6.29-rc3/fs/namespace.c
> --- linux-2.6.29-rc3-orig/fs/namespace.c	2009-01-29 09:47:51.000000000 +0900
> +++ linux-2.6.29-rc3/fs/namespace.c	2009-01-29 18:40:04.000000000 +0900
> @@ -1933,8 +1933,8 @@ long do_mount(char *dev_name, char *dir_
>  	if (flags & MS_RDONLY)
>  		mnt_flags |= MNT_READONLY;
>  
> -	flags &= ~(MS_NOSUID | MS_NOEXEC | MS_NODEV | MS_ACTIVE |
> -		   MS_NOATIME | MS_NODIRATIME | MS_RELATIME| MS_KERNMOUNT);
> +	flags &= ~(MS_NOSUID | MS_NODEV | MS_NOEXEC | MS_NOATIME |
> +		   MS_NODIRATIME | MS_RELATIME | MS_ACTIVE | MS_KERNMOUNT);
>  
>  	/* ... and get the mountpoint */
>  	retval = kern_path(dir_name, LOOKUP_FOLLOW, &path);
> diff -urNp linux-2.6.29-rc3-orig/include/linux/fs.h linux-2.6.29-rc3/include/linux/fs.h
> --- linux-2.6.29-rc3-orig/include/linux/fs.h	2009-01-29 10:04:18.000000000 +0900
> +++ linux-2.6.29-rc3/include/linux/fs.h	2009-01-29 10:24:14.000000000 +0900
> @@ -135,6 +135,8 @@ struct inodes_stat_t {
>  #define MS_RELATIME	(1<<21)	/* Update atime relative to mtime/ctime. */
>  #define MS_KERNMOUNT	(1<<22) /* this is a kern_mount call */
>  #define MS_I_VERSION	(1<<23) /* Update inode I_version field */
> +#define MS_FLUSHONFSYNC (1<<24)	/* Force block device flush on
> +				   fsync()/fdatasync() */
>  #define MS_ACTIVE	(1<<30)
>  #define MS_NOUSER	(1<<31)
>  
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-13 13:14 ext2 + -osync: not as easy as it seems Pavel Machek
2009-01-13 13:45 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-13 14:03   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-13 14:07     ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-13 14:26       ` [PATCH] block: Fix documentation for blkdev_issue_flush() Theodore Ts'o
2009-01-13 14:28         ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-13 14:30     ` ext2 + -osync: not as easy as it seems Jan Kara
2009-01-13 14:46       ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14  3:37       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-14 10:35         ` Jan Kara
2009-01-14 13:21           ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14 14:05             ` Jan Kara
2009-01-14 14:08               ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-14 14:34                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14 14:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-02-12 16:43                 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-16 12:09                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-14 14:12               ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-14 14:37                 ` Jan Kara
2009-01-14 16:59                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-15 12:06                     ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-15 23:45                       ` Jan Kara
2009-01-16 12:31                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-16 13:55                           ` ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-16 16:30                             ` Jan Kara
2009-01-17  9:47                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-17 10:00                                 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-19 12:03                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-01-28  9:45                                     ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-28  9:55                                       ` Jan Kara
2009-02-12 10:33                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:35                                           ` vfs: Improve readability off mount flag definitins by using offsets Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:36                                           ` vfs: Add MS_FLUSHONFSYNC mount flag Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 17:13                                             ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-02-12 17:29                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-02-14 15:36                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-02-15  7:23                                                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-15 22:54                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-16  4:29                                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-16  7:47                                                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-16  7:47                                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 21:23                                               ` Jan Kara
2009-02-12 21:30                                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-13  1:47                                                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-13  6:07                                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-13  2:23                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-22 14:15                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-22 20:51                                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-22 23:19                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-22 23:42                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-02-22 23:46                                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-02-23  1:23                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-13  1:14                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-13  6:20                                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-13 10:36                                                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-13 12:20                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2009-02-13 16:29                                                     ` Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao
2009-02-14 11:24                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2009-02-14 13:03                                                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-14 13:19                                                           ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-15  2:48                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2009-02-15  7:11                                                             ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:37                                           ` util-linux: Add new mount options flushonfsync and noflushonfsync to mount Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:38                                           ` util-linux: Add explanation for new mount options flushonfsync and noflushonfsync to mount(8) man page Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:38                                           ` block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:39                                           ` ext3: call blkdev_issue_flush on fsync Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-12 10:40                                           ` ext4: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-15 22:46                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-16  7:09                                               ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-16  7:25                                                 ` [PATCH 1/3] block: Add block_flush_device() Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-16  7:29                                                 ` [2/3] ext3: call block_flush_device() on fsync Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-02-16  7:31                                                 ` [PATCH 3/3] ext4: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-16 13:59                           ` ext4: call blkdev_issue_flush " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-01-13 14:42   ` ext2 + -osync: not as easy as it seems Pavel Machek

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