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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"virtualization@lists.osdl.org" <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI].
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:00:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB67BB0.3020303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AB64EFC.10707@goop.org>

On 09/20/2009 06:49 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> kvm will be removing the pvmmu support soon; and Xen is talking about
>> running paravirtualized guests in a vmx/svm container where they don't
>> need most of the hooks.
>>
>>      
> We have no plans to drop support for non-vmx/svm capable processors, let
> alone require ept/npt.
>    

Today, certainly; similarly kvm will host-side pvmmu support for a while 
to support live migration from older hosts.

But in a few years it may make sense to run everything in a vmx/svm 
container even for Xen; we can then drop x86 pv_ops for good.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.osdl.org" <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI].
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:00:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB67BB0.3020303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AB64EFC.10707@goop.org>

On 09/20/2009 06:49 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>> kvm will be removing the pvmmu support soon; and Xen is talking about
>> running paravirtualized guests in a vmx/svm container where they don't
>> need most of the hooks.
>>
>>      
> We have no plans to drop support for non-vmx/svm capable processors, let
> alone require ept/npt.
>    

Today, certainly; similarly kvm will host-side pvmmu support for a while 
to support live migration from older hosts.

But in a few years it may make sense to run everything in a vmx/svm 
container even for Xen; we can then drop x86 pv_ops for good.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-20 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-18  0:17 Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI] Alok Kataria
2009-09-18  0:34 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-18  0:53   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-18  0:58     ` Chris Wright
2009-09-18  1:43       ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-19  7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-19 22:44 ` Greg KH
2009-09-20  1:04   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-20  3:56   ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-20  3:59   ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-20  7:42     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-20  7:52       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-20  9:00         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-20 15:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-20 19:00             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-09-20 19:00               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22  8:09             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 16:52               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 18:02                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 18:16                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 19:04                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-22 19:30                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22  7:22           ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-22 16:53             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 19:30       ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-22 19:47         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 19:47           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-09-22 21:27         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-22 21:54           ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-22 22:58             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-23  7:29         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-29  0:45           ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29  2:25             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29  2:25               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29  3:00               ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29  9:01                 ` Chris Wright
2009-09-29 17:25                   ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 17:27                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 17:36                       ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 18:21                     ` Chris Wright
2009-10-08 20:24                 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, vmi: Mark VMI deprecated and schedule it for remval tip-bot for Alok Kataria
2009-10-08 20:34                 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, vmi: Mark VMI deprecated and schedule it for removal tip-bot for Alok Kataria
2009-09-29  8:08             ` Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI] Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-29 16:49               ` Alok Kataria
2009-09-29 16:51                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-29 17:55                 ` Learning question regarding virtio and partvirt_ops Hank Janssen
2009-09-29 19:02                   ` Brian Jackson
2009-10-02  3:00                 ` Paravirtualization on VMware's Platform [VMI] Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-02  3:00                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-02  4:45                   ` Alok Kataria

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