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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:04:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF29539.6070905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AF1AD5E.5040205@codemonkey.ws>

On 11/04/2009 06:35 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Vincent Hanquez wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 11:38:18AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2009 01:25 PM, Vincent Hanquez wrote:
>>>> not sure if i'm missing the point here, but couldn't it be 
>>>> hypothetically
>>>> extended to stuff 3d (or video&  more 2d accel ?) commands too ? I 
>>>> can't
>>>> imagine the cirrus or stdvga driver be able to do that ever ;)
>>> cirrus has pretty good 2d acceleration.  3D is a mega-project though.
>>
>> absolutely huge indeed, but still alexander's code is pretty much the
>> only way, to start such a project. with maybe added benefits on more
>> and easier 2d acceleration.
>>
>> or otherwise wait for SR-IOV graphics cards (or similar tech)...
>
> I think the real question is do we paravirtualize a VGA device or a 
> framebuffer.
>
> Obviously, the advantage of doing a framebuffer is that it works for 
> s390.
>
> A VGA device has better backwards compatibility on PCs although it's 
> obviously more complex.  In an ideal world, we could expose the virtio 
> framebuffer device as part of PCI device that was also VGA capable 
> (virtio-pci-vga transport?).
>
> But then there's QXL on the horizon which complicates matters further.
>

qxl is vga compatible.

> I'd say that virtio-fb should just focus on the s390 use case for 
> now.  Let things evolve as needed.
>

Sure.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-05  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-02 22:09 [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:32 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 22:42   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:57       ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:57         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:59         ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:59           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:51     ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:53       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:58         ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03  6:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:21   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:22   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:22     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:24     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:27       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:27         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:34         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:34           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:39           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:39             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  7:43             ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  7:43               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  7:50               ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  7:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:20                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:20                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:26                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:26                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:53                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:14                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:14                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:57                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:57                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 11:25             ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03 11:25               ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03  9:38               ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  9:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:29                 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 15:29                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:05                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:05                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:53                     ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:53                       ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 17:33                     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-04 16:09                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-04 16:35                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 16:35                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05  9:04                     ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-11-08  4:43                 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-11-06  2:39   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06  2:39     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06  3:05     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06  3:05       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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