From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:34:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEFCEDA.4030308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de>
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
>> How does it work today?
>
> You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
> haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as
> quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC.
Despite the coolness factor, IMO a few minutes during install time do
not justify a new hardware model and a new driver.
>> Does installation over vnc work?
>
> Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty
> requirement on guests IMHO.
Why? the guest will typically have networking when it's set up, so it
should have network access during install. You can easily use slirp
redirection and the built-in dhcp server to set this up with relatively
few hassles.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:34:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEFCEDA.4030308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de>
On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
>> How does it work today?
>
> You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing
> haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as
> quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC.
Despite the coolness factor, IMO a few minutes during install time do
not justify a new hardware model and a new driver.
>> Does installation over vnc work?
>
> Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty
> requirement on guests IMHO.
Why? the guest will typically have networking when it's set up, so it
should have network access during install. You can easily use slirp
redirection and the built-in dhcp server to set this up with relatively
few hassles.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-03 6:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-02 22:09 [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:32 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 22:42 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:57 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:57 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:59 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:51 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:53 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:58 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 6:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 6:22 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 6:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 6:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 6:27 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 6:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 6:34 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-11-03 6:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 6:39 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 7:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 7:50 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 7:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 8:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 8:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 8:26 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 8:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 8:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 11:25 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03 11:25 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:29 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 15:29 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:53 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:53 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 17:33 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-04 16:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-04 16:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 16:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 9:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-08 4:43 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-11-06 2:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 2:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 3:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06 3:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
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