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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, anthony@codemonkey.ws
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:27:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AEFCCBA.9050408@redhat.com>


On 03.11.2009, at 07:24, Avi Kivity wrote:

> On 11/03/2009 08:22 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>>>> This is especially important on machines that can't do MMIO, as  
>>>> all current
>>>> graphics implementations qemu emulates I'm aware of so far fail  
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> s390 virtual desktops?
>>
>> Well - have you ever tried installing SLES / RHEL on an S390? If  
>> not, give it a shot and comment again :-)
>>
>
> I won't be able to until qemu support s390.

I'm pretty sure RH has some S390 lying around ...

> How does it work today?

You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing  
haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as  
quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC.

> Does installation over vnc work?

Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty  
requirement on guests IMHO.

Alex


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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:27:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AEFCCBA.9050408@redhat.com>


On 03.11.2009, at 07:24, Avi Kivity wrote:

> On 11/03/2009 08:22 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>
>>>> This is especially important on machines that can't do MMIO, as  
>>>> all current
>>>> graphics implementations qemu emulates I'm aware of so far fail  
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> s390 virtual desktops?
>>
>> Well - have you ever tried installing SLES / RHEL on an S390? If  
>> not, give it a shot and comment again :-)
>>
>
> I won't be able to until qemu support s390.

I'm pretty sure RH has some S390 lying around ...

> How does it work today?

You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing  
haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as  
quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC.

> Does installation over vnc work?

Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty  
requirement on guests IMHO.

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-03  6:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-02 22:09 [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 22:32 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 22:42   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:57       ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:57         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:59         ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:59           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:51     ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-02 23:53       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02 23:58         ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03  6:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:21   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:22   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:22     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:24     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:27       ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2009-11-03  6:27         ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:34         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:34           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  6:39           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  6:39             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  7:43             ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  7:43               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  7:50               ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  7:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:20                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:20                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:26                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:26                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  8:53                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:14                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:14                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-03 15:57                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:57                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 11:25             ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03 11:25               ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-03  9:38               ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03  9:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 15:29                 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 15:29                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:05                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:05                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-03 16:53                     ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 16:53                       ` Ondrej Zajicek
2009-11-03 17:33                     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-03 17:33                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-04 16:09                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-11-04 16:35                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 16:35                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05  9:04                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-08  4:43                 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-11-06  2:39   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06  2:39     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06  3:05     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06  3:05       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 11:36   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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