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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Chris Webb" <chris@arachsys.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jernej Simončič" <jernej's-kvm@eternallybored.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] High CPU use of -usbdevice tablet (was Re: KVM usability)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:58:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB8C51A.6070908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004041525.18211.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 04/04/2010 05:25 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>> Looks like the tablet is set to 100 Hz polling rate.  We may be able
>>> to get away with 30 Hz or even less (ep_bInterval, in ms, in
>>> hw/usb-wacom.c).
>>>        
>> Changing the USB tablet polling interval from 10ms to 100ms in both
>> hw/usb-wacom.c and hw/usb-hid.c made no difference except the an increase
>>   in bInterval shown in lsusb -v in the guest and the hint of jerky mouse
>>   movement I expected from setting this value so high. A similar change to
>>   the polling interval for the keyboard and mouse also made no difference to
>>   their performance impact.
>>      
> The USB HID devices implement the SET_IDLE command, so the polling interval
> will have no real effect on performance.
>    

On a Linux guest (F12), I see 125 USB interrupts per second with no 
mouse movement, so something is broken (on the guest or host).

> My guess is that the overhead you're seeing is entirely from the USB host
> adapter having to wake up and check the transport descriptor lists. This will
> only result in the guest being woken if a device actually responds (as
> mentioned above it should not).
>    

A quick profile on the host side doesn't show this.  Instead, I see a 
lot of select() overhead.  Surprising as there are ~10 descriptors being 
polled, so ~1200 polls per second.  Maybe epoll will help here.


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "Chris Webb" <chris@arachsys.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Jernej Simončič" <jernej's-kvm@eternallybored.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] High CPU use of -usbdevice tablet (was Re: KVM usability)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 19:58:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB8C51A.6070908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004041525.18211.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 04/04/2010 05:25 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>> Looks like the tablet is set to 100 Hz polling rate.  We may be able
>>> to get away with 30 Hz or even less (ep_bInterval, in ms, in
>>> hw/usb-wacom.c).
>>>        
>> Changing the USB tablet polling interval from 10ms to 100ms in both
>> hw/usb-wacom.c and hw/usb-hid.c made no difference except the an increase
>>   in bInterval shown in lsusb -v in the guest and the hint of jerky mouse
>>   movement I expected from setting this value so high. A similar change to
>>   the polling interval for the keyboard and mouse also made no difference to
>>   their performance impact.
>>      
> The USB HID devices implement the SET_IDLE command, so the polling interval
> will have no real effect on performance.
>    

On a Linux guest (F12), I see 125 USB interrupts per second with no 
mouse movement, so something is broken (on the guest or host).

> My guess is that the overhead you're seeing is entirely from the USB host
> adapter having to wake up and check the transport descriptor lists. This will
> only result in the guest being woken if a device actually responds (as
> mentioned above it should not).
>    

A quick profile on the host side doesn't show this.  Instead, I see a 
lot of select() overhead.  Surprising as there are ~10 descriptors being 
polled, so ~1200 polls per second.  Maybe epoll will help here.


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-04 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1267068445.1726.25.camel@localhost>
     [not found] ` <1267089644.12790.74.camel@laptop>
2010-02-26  2:49   ` Enhance perf to support KVM Zhang, Yanmin
2010-02-26  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26  9:53       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 10:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:17             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 12:54                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:16                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:57                       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 14:04                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 15:06                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 16:46                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-02 17:12                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-02 17:20                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-02 17:24                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02 17:17                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 14:17                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 18:33               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-27 10:56                 ` KVM usability Ingo Molnar
2010-02-27 13:30                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-02-27 13:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-02-27 14:48                   ` Ian Kirk
2010-02-27 15:32                   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-27 17:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 16:48                       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 17:41                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-01 18:29                           ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 20:56                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 21:45                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 22:06                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-02  0:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  0:30                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  2:34                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  8:39                                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-07 18:42                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 10:30                               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:35                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07  9:56                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-07 10:11                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 15:14                                   ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-07 18:16                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:01                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 18:15                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:53                                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 19:05                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01  9:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:36                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:14                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:42                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02  1:12                     ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02 10:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-02 13:37                       ` Nikolai K. Bochev
2010-03-02 14:22                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:22                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 14:37                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 14:52                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:56                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 15:13                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-04 20:00                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-03-04 20:13                         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-04 20:34                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-04 22:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-05  7:44                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-07 11:25                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01 21:12                   ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-01 21:59                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  2:34                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-02  2:36                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 13:32                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:32                             ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-09 14:38                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-09 14:50                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:52                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:57                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:11                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 17:27                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:30                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:49                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02  3:02                       ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02  8:21                         ` Chris Webb
2010-03-02 14:54                           ` Dustin Kirkland
     [not found]                           ` <428008581.20100302103400@eternallybored.org>
2010-03-07 11:35                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 12:31                               ` High CPU use of -usbdevice tablet (was Re: KVM usability) Chris Webb
2010-04-04 12:31                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Webb
2010-04-04 14:25                                 ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 14:25                                   ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 16:58                                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-04 16:58                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 21:03                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:03                                       ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:53                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:53                                       ` Paul Brook
2010-04-05  8:22                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-05  8:22                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-03  2:57                       ` KVM usability Ross Boylan
2010-03-03  8:55                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-03 15:42                           ` Ross Boylan
2010-03-07 14:29                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:48             ` Enhance perf to support KVM Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 11:53               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 20:17           ` Anthony Liguori

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