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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Yinghai <yinghai.lu@oracle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Reserve legacy VGA MMIO area for x86_64 as well as x86_32
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:55:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBFB07E.9020108@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100409235148.793e4200@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On 04/09/2010 03:51 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> Why is this different for 64-bit vs 32-bit?  Can you point me to any
>> references where I can learn about this?
> 
> IMHO its wrong for both
> 
> You can only reserve the region in question if you actually have a VGA
> device and mappings present.
> 
> It's wrong for non PCI systems
> It's wrong for legacy ISA systems with monochrome video/no video
> It's wrong for several embedded platforms.
> It's wrong if PCI isn't your root bridge
> 
> Basically the reservation is the wrong way to fix it. A much saner way to
> fix it would be to simply keep a list of address ranges not to use for
> PCI device relocation. For I/O ports of course we just fix up the PCI
> resources of the device to list them as we discover it (IDE legacy).
>
> You don't want to put anything at the VGA address that needs assigning an
> address. That is *totally* different to the question of whether you want
> to believe the space is 'reserved'. If something is at that address then
> presumably the firmware knows what it is doing. If a device driver wishes
> to reserve that address it's doing so with more information, later in
> boot so should be allowed to.

That's what I mean with reserved, I'm using the term in the
E820_RESERVED sense.  As in "don't put anything there without it being
an explicit assignment".

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-09 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07 21:06 [PATCH] x86: Reserve legacy VGA MMIO area for x86_64 as well as x86_32 Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-07 22:45 ` Yinghai
2010-04-07 23:05   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-07 23:22     ` Yinghai
2010-04-08  3:24       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-08  4:42         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08 13:04           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 16:04       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 16:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 17:22           ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 18:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 18:55               ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 19:55                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 22:21                   ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-09 22:27                     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-09 22:35                       ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-09 22:44                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:54                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 23:01                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  0:00                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  1:10                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  1:43                               ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  1:48                                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  1:57                                   ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  2:46                                     ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 18:54                                       ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 19:34                                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 19:48                                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 19:55                                             ` yinghai.lu
2010-04-12 20:02                                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 22:32                                             ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:02                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-13 21:08                                                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:09                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 21:11                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:18                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 21:22                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 1/3] " Yinghai
2010-04-23 23:30                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 15:35                                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-13 21:23                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 2/3] x86,pci, acpi: host bridge windows inherit BUSY flag from parent Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:24                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 3/3] pci: don't allocate from a BUSY bus resource Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:42                                                       ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:58                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 22:29                                                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 22:39                                                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 22:41                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 22:58                                                               ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 23:02                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 23:03                                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 23:07                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 23:09                                                                       ` Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:33                                                                         ` [PATCH -v4 1/3] " Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:34                                                                           ` [PATCH 2/3] x86, resource: Add reserve_region_with_split_check_child() Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:35                                                                           ` [PATCH 3/3] x86,pci,acpi: Handle invalid _CRS Yinghai
2010-04-21 15:21                                                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 16:45                                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-21 16:59                                                                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 22:33                                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-21 23:04                                                                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 23:10                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-21 23:43                                                                                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-22  0:02                                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-22  0:06                                                                                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-21 19:31                                                                           ` [PATCH -v4 1/3] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Andy Isaacson
2010-04-23 23:05                                                                             ` [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below BIOS_END Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-23 23:44                                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-24  0:36                                                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-26 12:50                                                                               ` R. Andrew Bailey
2010-04-26 15:40                                                                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-26 18:34                                                                               ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-26 19:31                                                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 20:27                                                                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-26 20:37                                                                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:07                                                                                       ` Yinghai
2010-04-26 21:19                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 21:12                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 21:25                                                                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:44                                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 21:53                                                                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:59                                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                             ` [PATCH -v5] reserve a0000 - 0x10000 Yinghai
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <4BD60CD4.9020708@oracle.com>
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 1/3] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 2/3] x86: Remove probe_roms for 32bit Yinghai
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 3/3] x86, resource: Add reserve_region_with_split_check_child() Yinghai
2010-04-26 21:44                                                                                         ` [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below BIOS_END jacob pan
2010-04-13 23:03                                                                 ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-14  0:57                                                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-14 16:55                                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-14 17:21                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-14 19:25                                                             ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-14 19:27                                                               ` Yinghai
2010-04-14 19:43                                                                 ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-14 19:49                                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 22:33                                             ` [PATCH -v2 2/2] x86,pci, acpi: Inherent BUSY flag when setup_resource for root bus Yinghai
2010-04-12 22:44                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-13 21:02                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 20:11                 ` [PATCH] x86: Reserve legacy VGA MMIO area for x86_64 as well as x86_32 H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 20:31                   ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 20:44                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 21:01                       ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 22:42                       ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:42                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:54                           ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:55                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:51         ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:55           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-04-07 23:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08  0:19     ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-08  5:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08 21:40 ` Andy Isaacson

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