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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Jesse Barnes" <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	"Andy Isaacson" <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	"R. Andrew Bailey" <bailey@akamai.com>,
	"Yinghai" <yinghai.lu@oracle.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	guenter.roeck@ericsson.com,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Renninger" <trenn@suse.de>,
	yaneti@declera.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below  BIOS_END
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:12:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a65d005c2c7607d4d6dd6e280fdc6d66.squirrel@www.zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100426133757.3e1d0a75@virtuousgeek.org>

> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:27:56 -0600
> Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> wrote:
>> I'm a little concerned that those patches are a sledgehammer approach.
>> Previously, IORESOURCE_BUSY has basically been used for mutual exclusion
>> between drivers that would otherwise claim the same resource.  It hasn't
>> been used to guide resource assignment in the PCI/PNP/etc core.  Maybe
>> it's a good idea to also use IORESOURCE_BUSY there, but I'm not sure.
>> Right now it feels like undesirable overloading to me.
>
> I guess that's true, removing those regions from the pool entirely
> might be better?  Or some other, clear way of expressing that the
> regions aren't available to drivers.  Maybe we need a new IO resource
> type for platform ranges.
>
>> I think it also leads to at least one problem: Guenter's machine has no
>> VGA but has a PCI device that lives at 0xa0000.  The driver for that
>> device won't be able to request that region if the arch code has marked
>> it busy.
>
> Ah good point, so we'll want another approach at any rate.  Yinghai?

What we need is to keep track of the areas available for address space
allocation by dynamically addressed devices, as distinct from address
space that is in use by a kernel-known device.  There is an in-between,
which one can call "here there be dragons" space, which should never be
used for dynamic device allocation, but if a platform device or
pre-assigned device uses that space then it should be allowed to be
allocated.

In the case of x86, anything that is E820_RESERVED, *or* in the legacy
region (below 1 MB) and is not RAM, is "here there be dragons" space.

    -hpa


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-26 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-07 21:06 [PATCH] x86: Reserve legacy VGA MMIO area for x86_64 as well as x86_32 Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-07 22:45 ` Yinghai
2010-04-07 23:05   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-07 23:22     ` Yinghai
2010-04-08  3:24       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-08  4:42         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08 13:04           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 16:04       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 16:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 17:22           ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 18:23             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 18:55               ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 19:55                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 22:21                   ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-09 22:27                     ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-09 22:35                       ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-09 22:44                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:54                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-09 23:01                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  0:00                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  1:10                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  1:43                               ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  1:48                                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-10  1:57                                   ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-10  2:46                                     ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 18:54                                       ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 19:34                                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 19:48                                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 19:55                                             ` yinghai.lu
2010-04-12 20:02                                           ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-12 22:32                                             ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:02                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-13 21:08                                                 ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:09                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 21:11                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:18                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 21:22                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 1/3] " Yinghai
2010-04-23 23:30                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 15:35                                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-13 21:23                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 2/3] x86,pci, acpi: host bridge windows inherit BUSY flag from parent Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:24                                                       ` [PATCH -v3 3/3] pci: don't allocate from a BUSY bus resource Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:42                                                       ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-13 21:58                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 22:29                                                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 22:39                                                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 22:41                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 22:58                                                               ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 23:02                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 23:03                                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-13 23:07                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-13 23:09                                                                       ` Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:33                                                                         ` [PATCH -v4 1/3] " Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:34                                                                           ` [PATCH 2/3] x86, resource: Add reserve_region_with_split_check_child() Yinghai
2010-04-21  5:35                                                                           ` [PATCH 3/3] x86,pci,acpi: Handle invalid _CRS Yinghai
2010-04-21 15:21                                                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 16:45                                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-21 16:59                                                                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 22:33                                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-21 23:04                                                                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-21 23:10                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-21 23:43                                                                                         ` Yinghai
2010-04-22  0:02                                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-22  0:06                                                                                             ` Yinghai
2010-04-21 19:31                                                                           ` [PATCH -v4 1/3] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Andy Isaacson
2010-04-23 23:05                                                                             ` [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below BIOS_END Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-23 23:44                                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-24  0:36                                                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-26 12:50                                                                               ` R. Andrew Bailey
2010-04-26 15:40                                                                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-26 18:34                                                                               ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-26 19:31                                                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 20:27                                                                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-26 20:37                                                                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:07                                                                                       ` Yinghai
2010-04-26 21:19                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 21:12                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-04-26 21:25                                                                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:44                                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 21:53                                                                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 21:59                                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                             ` [PATCH -v5] reserve a0000 - 0x10000 Yinghai
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <4BD60CD4.9020708@oracle.com>
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 1/3] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map Yinghai
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 2/3] x86: Remove probe_roms for 32bit Yinghai
2010-04-26 22:04                                                                                               ` [PATCH -v5 3/3] x86, resource: Add reserve_region_with_split_check_child() Yinghai
2010-04-26 21:44                                                                                         ` [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below BIOS_END jacob pan
2010-04-13 23:03                                                                 ` [PATCH -v2 1/2] x86: Reserve [0xa0000, 0x100000] in e820 map H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-14  0:57                                                           ` Yinghai
2010-04-14 16:55                                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-14 17:21                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-14 19:25                                                             ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-14 19:27                                                               ` Yinghai
2010-04-14 19:43                                                                 ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-14 19:49                                                                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-12 22:33                                             ` [PATCH -v2 2/2] x86,pci, acpi: Inherent BUSY flag when setup_resource for root bus Yinghai
2010-04-12 22:44                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-13 21:02                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-09 20:11                 ` [PATCH] x86: Reserve legacy VGA MMIO area for x86_64 as well as x86_32 H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 20:31                   ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 20:44                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 21:01                       ` Guenter Roeck
2010-04-09 22:42                       ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:42                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:54                           ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:55                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-09 22:51         ` Alan Cox
2010-04-09 22:55           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-07 23:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08  0:19     ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-08  5:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-08 21:40 ` Andy Isaacson
2010-04-26 23:02 [PATCH] x86/PCI: never allocate PCI MMIO resources below BIOS_END H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 23:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-26 23:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-26 23:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-04-27  0:05     ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-27  1:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-27  1:40         ` Jesse Barnes
2010-04-27  1:41         ` Yinghai
2010-04-27 15:11           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-28 16:07             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-28 17:14               ` Yinghai Lu
2010-04-28 19:06                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-28 19:10                   ` Yinghai
2010-04-28 19:23                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2010-04-27  2:02 H. Peter Anvin

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