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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	stefanha@gmail.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:35:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C73CAA9.2060104@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C73C9CF.7090800@redhat.com>

On 08/24/2010 08:31 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>  On 08/24/2010 04:29 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure this patch is needed in the first place.
>>
>> If you have a sequence of operations like:
>>
>> 0) receive guest write request Z
>> 1) submit write A
>> 2) write A completes
>> 3) submit write B
>> 4) write B completes
>> 5) report guest write Z complete
>>
>> You're adding a:
>>
>> 4.5) sync write B
>>
>> Which is ultimately unnecessary if what you care about is avoiding 
>> reordering of step (2) and (4).  When a write() request completes, 
>> you're guaranteed that a subsequent read() request will return the 
>> written data.  That's always true.  If I could do a write(A) followed 
>> by a write(B) and then read()=A, no software would actually function 
>> correctly.
>>
>> It's important to make sure that you don't get image corruption if 
>> (2) happens but not (4).  But I think that's okay in qcow2 today.
>
> It's about metadata writes.  If an operation changes metadata, we must 
> sync it to disk before writing any data or other metadata which 
> depends on it, regardless of any promises to the guest.

Why?  If the metadata isn't sync, we loose the write.

But that can happen anyway because we're not sync'ing the data

We need to sync the metadata in the event of a guest initiated flush, 
but we shouldn't need to for a normal write.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-24 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06   ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56     ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35                 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53                     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23       ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-08-24 13:39           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25  7:14                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 12:46                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49                             ` Daniel P. Berrange

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