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From: walter harms <wharms@bfs.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>, Vasiliy Kulikov <segooon@gmail.com>,
	Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@atmel.com>,
	Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] arch/arm/mach-at91/clock.c: Add missing IS_ERR test
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:12:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3EB02D.6090302@bfs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110125104333.GE11507@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



Am 25.01.2011 11:43, schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:33:16AM +0100, walter harms wrote:
>> Would it be more easy to return NULL in the error case of clk_get() instead
>> of ERR_PTR(-ENOENT) ?
>>
>> So the default could be return NULL and an architecture depending solution
>> replacing that.
> 
> That's not how the API is defined.  The API defines error-pointers to be
> errors, everything should be considered valid.  Please don't go down the
> route of doing something architecturally different from that.
> 
> What if, say, you couldn't return the struct clk because maybe it could
> only be controlled by one user?  Returning an EBUSY error pointer would
> indicate this condition.  What if the module providing the struct clk
> hasn't finished initializing - that's another reason for EBUSY rather
> than ENOENT.
> 
> Error codes are useful to describe why something failed.  NULL pointers
> can't do that.
> 

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> 
...
> clk_get() is defined per-architecture, sometimes it is NULL only.
>

So these is a bug ? They should return -ENOENT ?

The interessting question is: what to do with an error ?

Obviously some architecture can live with NULL, so it is not an critical
error. An the patch shows a code that is simply a return, not even the
user is informed that something did not work as expected.

>From that point of view i would like question if it is useful to have
a "detailed" error instead of just returning NULL.

just my 2 cents,
re,
 wh

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From: walter harms <wharms@bfs.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] arch/arm/mach-at91/clock.c: Add missing IS_ERR test
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:12:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3EB02D.6090302@bfs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110125104333.GE11507@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



Am 25.01.2011 11:43, schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:33:16AM +0100, walter harms wrote:
>> Would it be more easy to return NULL in the error case of clk_get() instead
>> of ERR_PTR(-ENOENT) ?
>>
>> So the default could be return NULL and an architecture depending solution
>> replacing that.
> 
> That's not how the API is defined.  The API defines error-pointers to be
> errors, everything should be considered valid.  Please don't go down the
> route of doing something architecturally different from that.
> 
> What if, say, you couldn't return the struct clk because maybe it could
> only be controlled by one user?  Returning an EBUSY error pointer would
> indicate this condition.  What if the module providing the struct clk
> hasn't finished initializing - that's another reason for EBUSY rather
> than ENOENT.
> 
> Error codes are useful to describe why something failed.  NULL pointers
> can't do that.
> 

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> 
...
> clk_get() is defined per-architecture, sometimes it is NULL only.
>

So these is a bug ? They should return -ENOENT ?

The interessting question is: what to do with an error ?

Obviously some architecture can live with NULL, so it is not an critical
error. An the patch shows a code that is simply a return, not even the
user is informed that something did not work as expected.

From that point of view i would like question if it is useful to have
a "detailed" error instead of just returning NULL.

just my 2 cents,
re,
 wh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: wharms@bfs.de (walter harms)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/4] arch/arm/mach-at91/clock.c: Add missing IS_ERR test
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:12:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3EB02D.6090302@bfs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110125104333.GE11507@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



Am 25.01.2011 11:43, schrieb Russell King - ARM Linux:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:33:16AM +0100, walter harms wrote:
>> Would it be more easy to return NULL in the error case of clk_get() instead
>> of ERR_PTR(-ENOENT) ?
>>
>> So the default could be return NULL and an architecture depending solution
>> replacing that.
> 
> That's not how the API is defined.  The API defines error-pointers to be
> errors, everything should be considered valid.  Please don't go down the
> route of doing something architecturally different from that.
> 
> What if, say, you couldn't return the struct clk because maybe it could
> only be controlled by one user?  Returning an EBUSY error pointer would
> indicate this condition.  What if the module providing the struct clk
> hasn't finished initializing - that's another reason for EBUSY rather
> than ENOENT.
> 
> Error codes are useful to describe why something failed.  NULL pointers
> can't do that.
> 

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> 
...
> clk_get() is defined per-architecture, sometimes it is NULL only.
>

So these is a bug ? They should return -ENOENT ?

The interessting question is: what to do with an error ?

Obviously some architecture can live with NULL, so it is not an critical
error. An the patch shows a code that is simply a return, not even the
user is informed that something did not work as expected.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-25 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-24 19:55 [PATCH 0/4] Add missing IS_ERR test Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55 ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs/btrfs/inode.c: " Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] arch/arm/mach-at91/clock.c: " Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:56   ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 19:56     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 19:56     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:00     ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:00       ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:00       ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:05       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-24 20:05         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-24 20:05         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-24 20:09         ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:09           ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:09           ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:14           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-24 20:14             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-24 20:14             ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-01-25 10:33           ` walter harms
2011-01-25 10:33             ` walter harms
2011-01-25 10:33             ` walter harms
2011-01-25 10:43             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 10:43               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 10:43               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:12               ` walter harms [this message]
2011-01-25 11:12                 ` walter harms
2011-01-25 11:12                 ` walter harms
2011-01-25 11:17                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:17                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:17                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:18                 ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 11:18                   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 11:18                   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 11:26                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:26                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:26                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25 11:31                     ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 11:31                       ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 11:31                       ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:11         ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:11           ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:11           ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:28           ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:28             ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:28             ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:38             ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:38               ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 20:38               ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:01               ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:01                 ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:01                 ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:06                 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:06                   ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:06                   ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:31                   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:31                     ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:31                     ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:51                     ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:51                       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 21:51                       ` Ryan Mallon
2011-01-24 23:23                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 23:23                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 23:23                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-25  1:44                         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-25  1:44                           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-25  1:44                           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-25  6:12                           ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25  6:12                             ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25  6:12                             ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-25 17:23                             ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-25 17:23                               ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-25 17:23                               ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-01-24 19:55 ` [PATCH 3/4] drivers/video/bf537-lq035.c: " Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 20:43   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-01-24 20:43     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-01-25  6:12     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-25  6:12       ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-25  8:36   ` Hennerich, Michael
2011-01-25  8:36     ` Hennerich, Michael
2011-01-24 19:55 ` [PATCH 4/4] arch/arm/mach-omap2/smartreflex.c: " Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 19:55   ` Julia Lawall
2011-01-24 21:24   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-24 21:24     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-01-24 21:24     ` Kevin Hilman

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