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From: Mark Hatle <mark.hatle@windriver.com>
To: <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Add ARM tune file overhaul based largely on work from Mark Hatle
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:27:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E302051.1010308@windriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311773637.2344.365.camel@rex>

On 7/27/11 8:33 AM, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 13:17 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:44 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
>>> +TARGET_FPU = "${@d.getVar('ARMPKGSFX_FPU', True).strip('-') or 'soft'}"
>>
>> This seems a bit backwards.  Shouldn't TARGET_FPU be the primary
>> variable and then the package suffix be computed from that, rather than
>> vice versa?
> 
> It's been "fun" to use the rather limited constructs we have in these
> variables to construct the end result. I suspect this way around, it was
> the easiest way to get the right variables in the right places.
> 
>>> +ARMPKGSFX_THUMB .= "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", [ "armv4", "thumb" ], "t", "", d)}"
>>> +ARMPKGSFX_THUMB .= "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", [ "armv5", "thumb" ], "t", "", d)}"
>>> +ARMPKGSFX_THUMB .= "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", [ "armv6", "thumb" ], "t2", "", d)}"
>>> +ARMPKGSFX_THUMB .= "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", [ "armv7", "thumb" ], "t2", "", d)}"
>>
>> This is wrong: ARMv6 doesn't imply Thumb-2.
> 
> Ah, yes. I'll fix this.

Are you sure?  I thought ARMv6 -was- the first to support Thumb-2.  And armv5/4
were thumb(1).  Note, not all ARMv6 processors contain thumb support.

>>> +# Whether to compile with code to allow interworking between the two
>>> +# instruction sets. This allows thumb code to be executed on a primarily
>>> +# arm system and vice versa. It is strongly recommended that DISTROs not
>>> +# turn this off - the actual cost is very small.
>>> +TUNEVALID[no-thumb-interwork] = "Disable mixing of thumb and ARM functions"
>>> +TUNE_CCARGS += "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", "no-thumb-interwork", "-mno-thumb-interwork", "-mthumb-interwork", d)}"
>>> +OVERRIDES .= "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", "no-thumb-interwork", ":thumb-interwork", "", d)}"
>>
>> This is only relevant for v4t, I guess.  Interworking is basically
>> always on for v5 and later and (CeSI aside) it's impossible on v4, so
>> hardly anybody is going to be flipping this switch.  I'm not sure it
>> really merits an OVERRIDE.
> 
> I'd be happy to remove this option if there are no objections. It was
> left for compatibility with the existing tune-thumb file but as you say,
> it likely doesn't make much sense.
> 
>>> --- a/meta/conf/machine/include/tune-xscale.inc
>>> +++ b/meta/conf/machine/include/tune-xscale.inc
>>> @@ -1,11 +1,17 @@
>>> -require conf/machine/include/arm/arch-arm.inc
>>> +DEFAULTTUNE ?= "xscale"
>>>  
>>> -INHERIT += "siteinfo"
>>> +require conf/machine/include/arm/arch-armv5-dsp.inc
>>>  
>>> -TUNE_CCARGS = "-march=armv5te -mtune=xscale"
>>> -TARGET_CC_KERNEL_ARCH = "-march=armv5te -mtune=xscale"
>>> -TUNE_PKGARCH = "${@['armv5teb', 'armv5te'][bb.data.getVar('SITEINFO_ENDIANESS', d, 1) == 'le']}"
>>> -PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS = "${@['armeb armv4b armv4tb armv5teb', 'arm armv4 armv4t armv5te'][bb.data.getVar('SITEINFO_ENDIANESS', d, 1) == 'le']}"
>>> +TUNEVALID[xscale] = "Enable PXA255/PXA26x Xscale specific processor optimizations"
>>> +TUNE_CCARGS += "${@bb.utils.contains("TUNE_FEATURES", "xscale", "-mtune=xscale", "", d)}"
>>> +
>>> +AVAILTUNES += "xscale"
>>> +TUNE_FEATURES_tune-xscale = "${TUNE_FEATURES_tune-armv5te} xscale"
>>> +PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS_tune-xscale = "${PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS_tune-armv5te}"
>>> +
>>> +AVAILTUNES += "xscale-be"
>>> +TUNE_FEATURES_tune-xscale = "${TUNE_FEATURES_tune-armv5teb} xscale"
>>> +PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS_tune-xscale = "${PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS_tune-armv5teb}"
>>
>> I guess that should be "_tune-xscale-be".
> 
> Yes, I'll fix, well spotted.

In the original work I did it was just tune-xscale (no be).  AFAIK there is no
little endian version of xscale.  (there was an iwmmxt that was similar to
xscale, but was slightly different.)

>> All in all it seems as though there's an awful lot of expanded cross
>> products in this set of patches and I can't help wondering whether a lot
>> of this stuff would be better computed programmatically.  I wouldn't be
>> at all surprised if there are other copy-and-paste errors like the
>> xscale one lurking in that mass of overrides, but it's very hard to spot
>> them by eye.  It seems particularly unfortunate that everything has to
>> be written out twice, once for big-endian and once for little-endian,
>> given that endianness is almost entirely orthogonal to all the other
>> "tuning" parameters.
> 
> At least three of us have now done a pass over this so hopefully we've
> spotted the major ones but I agree its less than ideal.
> 
> The alternative is to post process the variables somehow, or turn it all
> into anonymous python (which from a .conf file is not as easy as it
> sounds).
> 
> I do like the fact that it allows some standardisation of the options
> available in a given tune file as whether or not big endian was even
> possible was previously hit and miss.
> 
> So I think its an improvement but likely not the finished end result.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1311683981.git.richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
2011-07-26 12:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add ARM tune file overhaul based largely on work from Mark Hatle Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 12:46   ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-27 12:17   ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 13:33     ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-27 14:27       ` Mark Hatle [this message]
2011-07-27 14:33         ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-27 14:49           ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-27 14:57             ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 15:01               ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-27 15:08                 ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 15:13                   ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-27 15:17                     ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  6:31                   ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  6:20             ` Khem Raj
2011-07-27 14:34         ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-27 14:44         ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 14:55           ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-29  6:18           ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  7:15             ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  6:08       ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  6:47         ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  6:51         ` Khem Raj
2011-07-27 14:34   ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 14:58     ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-27 15:25       ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 15:29         ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-27 15:49           ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 17:19         ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-27 19:31           ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27 20:48             ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-27 21:16               ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-28  0:43                 ` Khem Raj
2011-07-28  7:24           ` Martin Jansa
2011-07-28  8:54             ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-28 18:17               ` Martin Jansa
2011-07-29  6:41           ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  6:38         ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  7:13           ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  6:27       ` Khem Raj
2011-07-27 17:31   ` do_rootfs broken, was: " Koen Kooi
2011-07-27 18:19     ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-28 11:39   ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  5:59   ` Khem Raj
2011-07-29  7:25     ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-29  8:22       ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-26 12:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add basic Mips core tune config Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 14:41   ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 16:51     ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 17:08       ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 19:47   ` Khem Raj
2011-08-11 11:25   ` Phil Blundell
2011-08-11 12:08     ` Richard Purdie
2011-08-11 12:29       ` Phil Blundell
2011-08-11 14:28         ` Richard Purdie
2011-08-11 14:49         ` Khem Raj
2011-08-12 14:35           ` Phil Blundell
2011-08-12 15:28             ` Khem Raj
2011-08-11 15:54     ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 12:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add basic PowerPC " Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 13:47   ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-26 13:59     ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 14:59       ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 15:22       ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-26 16:18         ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 21:56           ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-26 22:02           ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-26 22:29             ` Khem Raj
2011-07-26 22:52             ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-27  3:23               ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-27  8:36                 ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-27  8:44                   ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-27  9:30                     ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-28  5:25                       ` Add basic PowerPC core tune config (bug?) Kumar Gala
2011-07-28  6:09                         ` Saul Wold
2011-07-28  7:48                           ` Cui, Dexuan
2011-07-28  8:47                             ` Paul Eggleton
2011-07-28  8:57                               ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-28  9:20                                 ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-28 10:00                                   ` Koen Kooi
2011-07-28 10:03                                     ` Phil Blundell
2011-07-27  9:35                     ` [PATCH 3/3] Add basic PowerPC core tune config Phil Blundell
2011-07-26 22:03           ` Kumar Gala
2011-07-27  8:31             ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 20:03         ` Khem Raj
2011-07-26 14:57   ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 16:36     ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 16:53       ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 17:05         ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 17:15           ` Mark Hatle
2011-07-26 19:21             ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 20:28               ` Richard Purdie
2011-07-26 20:13       ` Khem Raj

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