* Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock
@ 2011-08-12 13:27 Xen.org security team
2011-08-12 13:53 ` Jan Beulich
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Xen.org security team @ 2011-08-12 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
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Xen Security Advisory CVE-2011-3131 / XSA-5
Xen DoS using IOMMU faults from PCI-passthrough guest
ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================
A VM that controls a PCI[E] device directly can cause it to issue
DMA requests to invalid addresses. Although these requests are
denied by the IOMMU, the hypervisor needs to handle the interrupt
and clear the error from the IOMMU, and this can be used to
live-lock a CPU and potentially hang the host.
Because this issue has already been discussed on public mailing lists,
there is no embargo on this advisory or the patches.
VULNERABLE SYSTEMS
==================
Any system where an untrusted VM is given direct control of a PCI[E]
device is vulnerable.
IMPACT
======
A malicious guest administrator of a VM that has direct control of a
PCI[E] device can cause a performance degradation, and possibly hang the
host.
RESOLUTION
==========
This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of
xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-12 13:27 Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock Xen.org security team @ 2011-08-12 13:53 ` Jan Beulich 2011-08-12 14:09 ` Tim Deegan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-12 13:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Deegan; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team >>> On 12.08.11 at 15:27, Xen.org security team <security@xen.org> wrote: > IMPACT > ====== > > A malicious guest administrator of a VM that has direct control of a > PCI[E] device can cause a performance degradation, and possibly hang the > host. > > RESOLUTION > ========== > > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus mastering bit. Preventing that would need cooperation with pciback or filtering of subsequent config space writes directly in the hypervisor (the latter could become difficult when mmcfg is being used by Dom0 even for base accesses). Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-12 13:53 ` Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-12 14:09 ` Tim Deegan 2011-08-12 14:48 ` Jan Beulich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-12 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Beulich; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: > > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of > > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. > > Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means > it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus > mastering bit. That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the dom0 tools. The particular failure that this patch fixes was locking up cpu0 so hard that it couldn't even service softirqs, and the NMI watchdog rebooted the machine. But you're right that this doesn't really fix the non-fatal performance degradation. There are probably a lot more ways that a malicious VM with a PCI device could degrade performance, even just by aggressively DMAing to consume bus cycles. I think the best Xen can do is give dom0 a chance to shut down misbehaving guests. Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> Principal Software Engineer, Xen Platform Team Citrix Systems UK Ltd. (Company #02937203, SL9 0BG) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-12 14:09 ` Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-12 14:48 ` Jan Beulich 2011-08-15 9:26 ` Tim Deegan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-12 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Deegan; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus >> mastering bit. > > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the > dom0 tools. Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the fault storm is occurring on. > The particular failure that this patch fixes was locking up > cpu0 so hard that it couldn't even service softirqs, and the NMI > watchdog rebooted the machine. Hmm, that would point at a flaw in the interrupt exit path, on which softirqs shouldn't be ignored. Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-12 14:48 ` Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-15 9:26 ` Tim Deegan 2011-08-15 10:02 ` Jan Beulich 2011-08-16 7:03 ` Jan Beulich 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-15 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Beulich; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: > >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: > >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of > >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. > >> > >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means > >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus > >> mastering bit. > > > > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the > > dom0 tools. > > Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the > config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the > fault storm is occurring on. Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. What was your concern about memory-mapped config registers? That PCIback would need to be involved somehow? > > The particular failure that this patch fixes was locking up > > cpu0 so hard that it couldn't even service softirqs, and the NMI > > watchdog rebooted the machine. > > Hmm, that would point at a flaw in the interrupt exit path, on which > softirqs shouldn't be ignored. Are you suggesting that we should handle softirqs before re-enabling interrupts? That sounds perilous. Tim. -- Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> Principal Software Engineer, Xen Platform Team Citrix Systems UK Ltd. (Company #02937203, SL9 0BG) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-15 9:26 ` Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-15 10:02 ` Jan Beulich 2011-08-16 7:03 ` Jan Beulich 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-15 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Deegan; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team >>> On 15.08.11 at 11:26, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of >> >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. >> >> >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means >> >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus >> >> mastering bit. >> > >> > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the >> > dom0 tools. >> >> Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the >> config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the >> fault storm is occurring on. > > Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. What was your concern about > memory-mapped config registers? That PCIback would need to be involved > somehow? Yes, unless we want to get into the business of intercepting Dom0's writes to mmcfg space. >> > The particular failure that this patch fixes was locking up >> > cpu0 so hard that it couldn't even service softirqs, and the NMI >> > watchdog rebooted the machine. >> >> Hmm, that would point at a flaw in the interrupt exit path, on which >> softirqs shouldn't be ignored. > > Are you suggesting that we should handle softirqs before re-enabling > interrupts? That sounds perilous. Ah, okay, I was assuming execution would get back into the guest at least, but you're saying the interrupts hit right after the sti. Indeed, in that case there's not much else we can do. Or maybe we could: How about moving the whole fault handling into a softirq, and make the low level handler just raise that one? Provided this isn't a performance critical operation (and it really can't given that now you basically knock the offending device in the face when one happens), having to iterate through all IOMMUs shouldn't be that bad. Jan Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-15 9:26 ` Tim Deegan 2011-08-15 10:02 ` Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-16 7:03 ` Jan Beulich 2011-08-16 15:06 ` Tim Deegan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-16 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Deegan; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team >>> On 15.08.11 at 11:26, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of >> >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. >> >> >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means >> >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus >> >> mastering bit. >> > >> > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the >> > dom0 tools. >> >> Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the >> config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the >> fault storm is occurring on. > > Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. Actually, a second vCPU may not even be needed: Since the "fault" really is an external interrupt, if that one gets handled on a pCPU other than the one the guest's vCPU is running on, it could execute such a loop even in that case. As to yesterdays softirq-based handling thoughts - perhaps the clearing of the bus master bit on the device should still be done in the actual IRQ handler, while the processing of the fault records could be moved out to a softirq. Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-16 7:03 ` Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-16 15:06 ` Tim Deegan 2011-08-16 15:59 ` Jan Beulich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-16 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Beulich; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team At 08:03 +0100 on 16 Aug (1313481813), Jan Beulich wrote: > >>> On 15.08.11 at 11:26, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > > At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: > >> >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > >> > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: > >> >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of > >> >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. > >> >> > >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means > >> >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus > >> >> mastering bit. > >> > > >> > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the > >> > dom0 tools. > >> > >> Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the > >> config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the > >> fault storm is occurring on. > > > > Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. > > Actually, a second vCPU may not even be needed: Since the "fault" > really is an external interrupt, if that one gets handled on a pCPU other > than the one the guest's vCPU is running on, it could execute such a > loop even in that case. > > As to yesterdays softirq-based handling thoughts - perhaps the clearing > of the bus master bit on the device should still be done in the actual IRQ > handler, while the processing of the fault records could be moved out to > a softirq. Hmmm. I like the idea of using a softirq but in fact by the time we've figured out which BDF to silence we've pretty much done handling the fault. Reading the VTd docs it looks like we can just ack the IOMMU fault interrupt and it won't send any more until we clear the log, so we can leave the whole business to a softirq. Delaying that might cause the log to overflow, but that's not necessarily the end of the world. Looks like we can do the same on AMD by disabling interrupt generation in the main handler and reenabling it in the softirq. Is there any situation where we rally care terribly about the IOfault logs overflowing? Tim. -- Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> Principal Software Engineer, Xen Platform Team Citrix Systems UK Ltd. (Company #02937203, SL9 0BG) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-16 15:06 ` Tim Deegan @ 2011-08-16 15:59 ` Jan Beulich 2011-09-21 0:07 ` Kay, Allen M 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-08-16 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Deegan; +Cc: xen-devel, Xen.org security team >>> On 16.08.11 at 17:06, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > At 08:03 +0100 on 16 Aug (1313481813), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >>> On 15.08.11 at 11:26, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> > At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> >> > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of >> >> >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means >> >> >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus >> >> >> mastering bit. >> >> > >> >> > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the >> >> > dom0 tools. >> >> >> >> Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the >> >> config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the >> >> fault storm is occurring on. >> > >> > Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. >> >> Actually, a second vCPU may not even be needed: Since the "fault" >> really is an external interrupt, if that one gets handled on a pCPU other >> than the one the guest's vCPU is running on, it could execute such a >> loop even in that case. >> >> As to yesterdays softirq-based handling thoughts - perhaps the clearing >> of the bus master bit on the device should still be done in the actual IRQ >> handler, while the processing of the fault records could be moved out to >> a softirq. > > Hmmm. I like the idea of using a softirq but in fact by the time we've > figured out which BDF to silence we've pretty much done handling the > fault. Ugly, but yes, indeed. > Reading the VTd docs it looks like we can just ack the IOMMU fault > interrupt and it won't send any more until we clear the log, so we can > leave the whole business to a softirq. Delaying that might cause the > log to overflow, but that's not necessarily the end of the world. > Looks like we can do the same on AMD by disabling interrupt generation > in the main handler and reenabling it in the softirq. > > Is there any situation where we rally care terribly about the IOfault > logs overflowing? As long as older entries don't get overwritten, I don't think that's going to be problematic. The more that we basically shut off the offending device(s). Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* RE: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-08-16 15:59 ` Jan Beulich @ 2011-09-21 0:07 ` Kay, Allen M 2011-09-21 6:47 ` Jan Beulich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Kay, Allen M @ 2011-09-21 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Beulich, Tim Deegan Cc: xen-devel, Dugger, Donald D, Xen.org, security team Catching up on an old thread ... If I understand correctly, the proposal is to check for VT-d faults in do_softirq() handler. If so, we probably don't even need to enable VT-d MSI interrupt at all if iommu_debug is not set, basically handling VT-d faults with polling method. This sounds fine to me as long as we still turn on VT-d MSI interrupt for iommu_debug case. Allen -----Original Message----- From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of Jan Beulich Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:59 AM To: Tim Deegan Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Xen.org security team Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock >>> On 16.08.11 at 17:06, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: > At 08:03 +0100 on 16 Aug (1313481813), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >>> On 15.08.11 at 11:26, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> > At 15:48 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313164084), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> >>> On 12.08.11 at 16:09, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org> wrote: >> >> > At 14:53 +0100 on 12 Aug (1313160824), Jan Beulich wrote: >> >> >> > This issue is resolved in changeset 23762:537ed3b74b3f of >> >> >> > xen-unstable.hg, and 23112:84e3706df07a of xen-4.1-testing.hg. >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you really think this helps much? Direct control of the device means >> >> >> it could also (perhaps on a second vCPU) constantly re-enable the bus >> >> >> mastering bit. >> >> > >> >> > That path goes through qemu/pciback, so at least lets Xen schedule the >> >> > dom0 tools. >> >> >> >> Are you sure? If (as said) the guest uses a second vCPU for doing the >> >> config space accesses, I can't see how this would save the pCPU the >> >> fault storm is occurring on. >> > >> > Hmmm. Yes, I see what you mean. >> >> Actually, a second vCPU may not even be needed: Since the "fault" >> really is an external interrupt, if that one gets handled on a pCPU other >> than the one the guest's vCPU is running on, it could execute such a >> loop even in that case. >> >> As to yesterdays softirq-based handling thoughts - perhaps the clearing >> of the bus master bit on the device should still be done in the actual IRQ >> handler, while the processing of the fault records could be moved out to >> a softirq. > > Hmmm. I like the idea of using a softirq but in fact by the time we've > figured out which BDF to silence we've pretty much done handling the > fault. Ugly, but yes, indeed. > Reading the VTd docs it looks like we can just ack the IOMMU fault > interrupt and it won't send any more until we clear the log, so we can > leave the whole business to a softirq. Delaying that might cause the > log to overflow, but that's not necessarily the end of the world. > Looks like we can do the same on AMD by disabling interrupt generation > in the main handler and reenabling it in the softirq. > > Is there any situation where we rally care terribly about the IOfault > logs overflowing? As long as older entries don't get overwritten, I don't think that's going to be problematic. The more that we basically shut off the offending device(s). Jan _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* RE: Xen Advisory 5 (CVE-2011-3131) IOMMU fault livelock 2011-09-21 0:07 ` Kay, Allen M @ 2011-09-21 6:47 ` Jan Beulich 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jan Beulich @ 2011-09-21 6:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Allen M Kay; +Cc: xen-devel, Tim Deegan, Donald D Dugger, Xen.orgsecurity team >>> On 21.09.11 at 02:07, "Kay, Allen M" <allen.m.kay@intel.com> wrote: > Catching up on an old thread ... > > If I understand correctly, the proposal is to check for VT-d faults in > do_softirq() handler. If so, we probably don't even need to enable VT-d MSI > interrupt at all if iommu_debug is not set, basically handling VT-d faults > with polling method. No, I don't think switching to polling mode was implied here. My thinking was rather along the lines of a dedicated softirq that the interrupt handler would raise, for the bulk of the handling to take place there. Jan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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