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From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Xen <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Landley <rlandley@parallels.com>, X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Suzuki Pou
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V4 0/5] kvm : Paravirt-spinlock support for KVM guests
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:18:38 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F147106.4040803@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F142AF1.2020801@redhat.com>

On 01/16/2012 07:19 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 01/16/2012 03:43 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>> Dbench:
>>>> Throughput is in MB/sec
>>>> NRCLIENTS     BASE                    BASE+patch
>>>> %improvement
>>>>                      mean (sd)               mean (sd)
>>>> 8           1.101190  (0.875082)     1.700395  (0.846809)     54.4143
>>>> 16          1.524312  (0.120354)     1.477553  (0.058166)     -3.06755
>>>> 32            2.143028  (0.157103)     2.090307  (0.136778)
>>>> -2.46012
>>>
>>> So on a very contended system we're actually slower? Is this expected?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think, the result is interesting because its PLE machine. I have to
>> experiment more with parameters, SPIN_THRESHOLD, and also may be
>> ple_gap and ple_window.
>
> Perhaps the PLE stuff fights with the PV stuff?
>

I also think so. The slight advantage in PLE, with current patch would
be  that, we are be able to say " This is the next guy who should
probably get his turn".  But If total number of unnecessary "halt
exits" disadvantage dominates above advantage, then we see degradation.

One clarification in above benchmarking is,  Dbench is run
simultaneously on all (8 vcpu) 3 guests. So we already have 1:3 
overcommit when we run 8 clients of dbench. after that it was just 
increasing number of clients.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Xen <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Landley <rlandley@parallels.com>, X86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Suzuki
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V4 0/5] kvm : Paravirt-spinlock support for KVM guests
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:18:38 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F147106.4040803@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F142AF1.2020801@redhat.com>

On 01/16/2012 07:19 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 01/16/2012 03:43 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>> Dbench:
>>>> Throughput is in MB/sec
>>>> NRCLIENTS     BASE                    BASE+patch
>>>> %improvement
>>>>                      mean (sd)               mean (sd)
>>>> 8           1.101190  (0.875082)     1.700395  (0.846809)     54.4143
>>>> 16          1.524312  (0.120354)     1.477553  (0.058166)     -3.06755
>>>> 32            2.143028  (0.157103)     2.090307  (0.136778)
>>>> -2.46012
>>>
>>> So on a very contended system we're actually slower? Is this expected?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think, the result is interesting because its PLE machine. I have to
>> experiment more with parameters, SPIN_THRESHOLD, and also may be
>> ple_gap and ple_window.
>
> Perhaps the PLE stuff fights with the PV stuff?
>

I also think so. The slight advantage in PLE, with current patch would
be  that, we are be able to say " This is the next guy who should
probably get his turn".  But If total number of unnecessary "halt
exits" disadvantage dominates above advantage, then we see degradation.

One clarification in above benchmarking is,  Dbench is run
simultaneously on all (8 vcpu) 3 guests. So we already have 1:3 
overcommit when we run 8 clients of dbench. after that it was just 
increasing number of clients.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-16 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-14 18:25 [PATCH RFC V4 0/5] kvm : Paravirt-spinlock support for KVM guests Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25 ` [PATCH RFC V4 1/5] debugfs: Add support to print u32 array in debugfs Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25 ` [PATCH RFC V4 2/5] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:25   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  3:24   ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  3:24     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  8:43     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  8:43       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  9:03   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:03     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:55     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  9:55       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26 ` [PATCH RFC V4 3/5] kvm guest : Added configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26 ` [PATCH RFC V4 4/5] kvm : pv-ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:26   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  3:12   ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  3:12     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  7:25     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  7:25       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:05     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 14:13     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 14:13       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 14:47       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 14:47         ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 23:49         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-16 23:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-17 11:02   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-17 11:02     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-17 11:33     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 11:33       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-18  1:34       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-18  1:34         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-18 13:54         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-18 13:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-18 21:52           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-18 21:52             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-24 14:08             ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 14:08               ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-24 18:51               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-24 18:51                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 18:57     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 18:57       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-24 19:01       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:27 ` [PATCH RFC V4 5/5] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:27 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:27   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-14 18:27   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  3:23   ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  3:23     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  3:51     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-16  3:51       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-16  4:00       ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  4:00         ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  8:47         ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  8:44     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  8:44       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 10:26       ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16 10:26         ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  9:00   ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:00     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  9:40     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-16 10:14       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 14:11         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17  9:14           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17  9:14             ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 12:26             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 12:26               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 12:51               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 12:51                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 13:11                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 13:11                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 13:20                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 13:20                     ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 14:28                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 14:28                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 15:32                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 15:32                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-17 15:53                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-17 15:53                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-20 15:09                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-17 13:13                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 13:13                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16  3:57 ` [PATCH RFC V4 0/5] kvm : Paravirt-spinlock support for KVM guests Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  3:57   ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16  6:40   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-16  6:40     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-16  8:55     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16  8:55       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 23:59       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-16 23:59         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-18 10:48         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-18 10:48           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 10:24     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16 10:24       ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-17  0:30       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-17  0:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-01-18 10:23         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-18 10:23           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 13:43   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 13:43     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 13:49     ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 13:49       ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-16 18:48       ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2012-01-16 18:48         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 14:20   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-16 14:20     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-16 14:23     ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16 14:23       ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16 18:38       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 18:38         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-16 18:42         ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-16 18:42           ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-17 17:27           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 17:27             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 17:39             ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-17 17:39               ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-17 18:36               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 18:36                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-17 21:57                 ` Dave Hansen
2012-01-17 21:57                   ` Dave Hansen
2012-01-18  2:27                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-18  2:27                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-25  8:55                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-25  8:55                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-25 16:35                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-25 16:35                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-25 17:45                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-25 17:45                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-01-25 19:05                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-25 19:05                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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