Edison Next

Edison Next

[Joshua Lock]

Hi,

There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed 
against that release series so I've started pulling together a branch of 
fixes for another Edison point release.

So far I have:
* Several fixes for useradd
* A fix for building syslinux on hosts with 3.3 or newer kernels [YOCTO 
#2236]
* Fixes so that live images greater than 1GB in size can boot [YOCTO #2138]

If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series 
please point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.

My current branch can be seen here:

http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=josh/edison

Thanks,
Joshua
-- 
Joshua '贾詡' Lock
         Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
         Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: Edison Next

[Matthew McClintock]

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed against
> that release series so I've started pulling together a branch of fixes for
> another Edison point release.
>
> So far I have:
> * Several fixes for useradd
> * A fix for building syslinux on hosts with 3.3 or newer kernels [YOCTO
> #2236]
> * Fixes so that live images greater than 1GB in size can boot [YOCTO #2138]
>
> If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series please
> point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.
>
> My current branch can be seen here:
>
> http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=josh/edison

I, of course, have more fixes I can suggest. I'll try to look next
week when I'm back in the office.

-M

Re: Edison Next

[Flanagan, Elizabeth]

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On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed against
> that release series so I've started pulling together a branch of fixes for
> another Edison point release.
>
> So far I have:
> * Several fixes for useradd
> * A fix for building syslinux on hosts with 3.3 or newer kernels [YOCTO
> #2236]
> * Fixes so that live images greater than 1GB in size can boot [YOCTO #2138]
>
> If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series please
> point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.
>
>
To fix https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2230 I'll have to
break up
http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=cb91ef9310a2450650ec880be6f0fc3a6e2d4a23
or look at take license fixes entirely.

-b


My current branch can be seen here:
>
> http://git.yoctoproject.org/**cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/**
> log/?h=josh/edison<http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=josh/edison>
>
> Thanks,
> Joshua
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>        Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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Elizabeth Flanagan
Yocto Project
Build and Release

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Re: Edison Next

[Holger Hans Peter Freyther]

On 04/06/2012 07:40 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed against that
> release series so I've started pulling together a branch of fixes for another
> Edison point release.

Hi,

is there a page somewhere on the yoctoproject or pokylinux that explains what
the current release is, what the next one will be, when the next one will be
released, how long the old one will be supported/

holger

PS: An edison user as well.

Re: Edison Next

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Holger Hans Peter Freyther,

In message <4F801898.2060107@freyther.de> you wrote:
>
> is there a page somewhere on the yoctoproject or pokylinux that explains what
> the current release is, what the next one will be, when the next one will be
> released, how long the old one will be supported/

Some links:

https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Planning
https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/YoctoCalendar


Hope thishelps.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: Edison Next

[Joshua Lock]

On 07/04/12 03:36, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote:
> On 04/06/2012 07:40 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed against that
>> release series so I've started pulling together a branch of fixes for another
>> Edison point release.
>
> Hi,
>
> is there a page somewhere on the yoctoproject or pokylinux that explains what
> the current release is, what the next one will be, when the next one will be
> released, how long the old one will be supported/

Releases are on an approximately 6 month cadence, the last release was 
Edison in October 2011[1].

Our FAQ addresses the support question[2]:

"Q: What is the overall support plan for the Yocto Project?

A: Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release 
back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates. 
Support for longer periods of time can be supplied by commercial OSVs."

We also have a public calendar that others have linked to.

Cheers,
Joshua

1. 
http://www.yoctoproject.org/blogs/davest/2011/meet-edison-yocto-project-v1.1-release
2. https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/FAQ
-- 
Joshua '贾詡' Lock
         Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
         Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: Edison Next

[Derek Buitenhuis]

On 09/04/2012 3:57 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
> "Q: What is the overall support plan for the Yocto Project?
> 
> A: Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release 
> back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates. 
> Support for longer periods of time can be supplied by commercial OSVs."

Random Question:

The above FAQ is a tad vague... what if the kernel or toolchain change
is a security fix?

- Derek

Re: Edison Next

[Joshua Lock]

On 09/04/12 13:26, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 09/04/2012 3:57 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>> "Q: What is the overall support plan for the Yocto Project?
>>
>> A: Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release
>> back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates.
>> Support for longer periods of time can be supplied by commercial OSVs."
>
> Random Question:
>
> The above FAQ is a tad vague... what if the kernel or toolchain change
> is a security fix?

That's a reasonable question, but not one I can answer with any 
authority, having not authored the FAQ.

I infer that it means toolchain or kernel *version* changes, as we 
strive to avoid breaking compatibility with any existing layers, etc. 
when providing a stable release update.

Regards,
Joshua
-- 
Joshua '贾詡' Lock
         Yocto Project "Johannes factotum"
         Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: Edison Next

[Saul Wold]

On 04/09/2012 01:33 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>
>
> On 09/04/12 13:26, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
>> On 09/04/2012 3:57 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>>> "Q: What is the overall support plan for the Yocto Project?
>>>
>>> A: Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release
>>> back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates.
>>> Support for longer periods of time can be supplied by commercial OSVs."
>>
>> Random Question:
>>
>> The above FAQ is a tad vague... what if the kernel or toolchain change
>> is a security fix?
>
> That's a reasonable question, but not one I can answer with any
> authority, having not authored the FAQ.
>
> I infer that it means toolchain or kernel *version* changes, as we
> strive to avoid breaking compatibility with any existing layers, etc.
> when providing a stable release update.
>
Joshua is correct, we should update the FAQ to state "Major Version" 
changes to toolchain or kernel.  If there is a CVE that is addressed by 
a patch or maintence update we will ensure those get in.

Sau!

Yocto Project User Space


> Regards,
> Joshua

Re: Edison Next

[Derek Buitenhuis]

On 09/04/2012 4:46 PM, Saul Wold wrote:
> Joshua is correct, we should update the FAQ to state "Major Version" 
> changes to toolchain or kernel.  If there is a CVE that is addressed by 
> a patch or maintence update we will ensure those get in.

OK. Thanks.

- Derek

Re: Edison Next

[Mark Hatle]

On 4/9/12 3:33 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>
>
> On 09/04/12 13:26, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
>> On 09/04/2012 3:57 PM, Joshua Lock wrote:
>>> "Q: What is the overall support plan for the Yocto Project?
>>>
>>> A: Security patches and critical bug fixes are supplied one release
>>> back. No toolchain or kernel changes are allowed for these updates.
>>> Support for longer periods of time can be supplied by commercial OSVs."
>>
>> Random Question:
>>
>> The above FAQ is a tad vague... what if the kernel or toolchain change
>> is a security fix?
>
> That's a reasonable question, but not one I can answer with any
> authority, having not authored the FAQ.
>
> I infer that it means toolchain or kernel *version* changes, as we
> strive to avoid breaking compatibility with any existing layers, etc.
> when providing a stable release update.

Yes, the intention is toolchain/kernel -bug fixes- are allowed.. version and 
more specifically API changes are not allowed.  Feature/ABI stability is the key.

--Mark

> Regards,
> Joshua

Re: Edison Next

[Holger Hans Peter Freyther]

On 04/07/2012 02:19 PM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

> Hope thishelps.

thanks.

Re: Edison Next

[Joshua Lock]

An update for the curious...

On 06/04/12 10:40, Joshua Lock wrote:
> There are plenty of folks still using Edison and bugs being filed
> against that release series so I've started pulling together a branch of
> fixes for another Edison point release.
>
> So far I have:
> * Several fixes for useradd
> * A fix for building syslinux on hosts with 3.3 or newer kernels [YOCTO
> #2236]
> * Fixes so that live images greater than 1GB in size can boot [YOCTO #2138]

I'm running into an issue with xserver-nodm where useradd retries 10 
times and gives up. I think it's the RPM ordering issue from #2218

https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2218

This is fixed in master and Denzil but the RPM package backend has 
changed significantly since Edison. I'm trying to figure out the 
smallest change possible for Edison to fix this issue.

> If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series
> please point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.

Matthew, any update from you here?

> My current branch can be seen here:
>
> http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/poky-contrib/log/?h=josh/edison

Note: this has useradd failures as above.

Regards,

Joshua
-- 
Joshua Lock
         Yocto Project
         Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: Edison Next

[McClintock Matthew-B29882]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joshua Lock <josh@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series
>> please point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.
>
>
> Matthew, any update from you here?

I should try to throw a branch together for you to see my changes.
Perhaps I will get to it next week. I need to re-acclimate to what
I've done though.

-M

Re: Edison Next

[Joshua Lock]

On 04/05/12 09:11, McClintock Matthew-B29882 wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joshua Lock<josh@linux.intel.com>  wrote:
>>> If there are other fixes you would like to see in the Edison series
>>> please point me at bug numbers or, even better, patches.
>>
>>
>> Matthew, any update from you here?
>
> I should try to throw a branch together for you to see my changes.
> Perhaps I will get to it next week. I need to re-acclimate to what
> I've done though.

Thanks!

Joshua
-- 
Joshua Lock
         Yocto Project
         Intel Open Source Technology Centre