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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 05/16] memory: introduce ref, unref interface for MemoryRegionOps
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:40:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50869041.7030800@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50868D60.4050009@redhat.com>

On 2012-10-23 14:28, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 10/23/2012 02:16 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2012-10-23 14:12, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> Il 23/10/2012 14:04, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So the stop_machine idea is thrown away?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IIRC I convinced myself that it's just as bad.
>>>> One tricky part with stop machine is that legacy code may trigger it
>>>> while holding the BQL, does not expect to lose that lock even for a
>>>> brief while, but synchronizing on other threads does require dropping
>>>> the lock right now. Maybe an implementation detail, but at least a nasty
>>>> one.
>>>
>>> But it would only be triggered by hot-unplug, no?
>>
>> Once all code that adds/removes memory regions from within access
>> handlers is converted. 
> 
> add/del is fine.  memory_region_destroy() is the problem.  I have
> patches queued that fix those problems and add an assert() to make sure
> we don't add more.
> 
> It's not just memory regions, it's practically anything that can be
> removed and that has callbacks.  The two proposals are:
> 
> - qomify
> - split unplug into isolate+destroy
> - let the issuer of the callbacks manage the reference counts

What do you mean with the last one?

> 
> vs
> 
> - split unplug into isolate+destroy
> - let unplug defer destruction to a bottom half, and stop_machine there
> - if we depend on the results [1], add a continuation
> 
> [1] Say a monitor command wants to return only after the block device
> has been detached from qemu

The monitor is likely harmless (as it's pretty confined). But is that
all? Hunting down all (corner) cases will make switching to this model
tricky.

Jan

-- 
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Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-23 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22  9:23 [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 00/16] push mmio dispatch out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 01/16] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 02/16] qom: apply atomic on object's refcount Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 03/16] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 04/16] pci: remove pci device from mem view when unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 05/16] memory: introduce ref, unref interface for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:38   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 11:51     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 11:55       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 11:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:02           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:06             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:15               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:32                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 14:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 15:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 16:09                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  7:29                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-25 16:28                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-26 15:05                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:04         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:16             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:28               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:40                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-10-23 14:37                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 06/16] memory: document ref, unref interface Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 07/16] memory: make mmio dispatch able to be out of biglock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-23 12:12   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:36     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  6:31       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  6:56         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25  8:57           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 08/16] QemuThread: make QemuThread as tls to store extra info Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:30   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 17:13     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-23  5:58       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23 11:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 11:50         ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-23 11:51           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:27             ` Peter Maydell
2012-11-18 10:02             ` Brad Smith
2012-11-18 16:14               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-18 16:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 09/16] memory: introduce mmio request pending to anti nested DMA Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:28   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:38   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-24  6:31     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 10/16] memory: introduce lock ops for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:30   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  5:53     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  8:53       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 11/16] vcpu: push mmio dispatcher out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:31   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 10:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 12/16] e1000: apply fine lock on e1000 Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:37   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  9:04   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-24  6:31     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  7:17       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25  9:01         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25  9:31           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 16:21             ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 16:39               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 18:48                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-29  5:24                     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25 13:34       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 16:23         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 16:41           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:03             ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-29  5:24         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-31  7:03           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 13/16] e1000: add busy flag to anti broken device state Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:40   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  5:52     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  9:06       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  9:07       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23  9:32         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  9:37           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  6:36             ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25  8:55               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25  9:00             ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-25  9:04               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-26  3:05                 ` liu ping fan
2012-10-26  3:08                   ` liu ping fan
2012-10-26 10:25                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-29  5:24                       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-29  7:50                         ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 14/16] qdev: introduce stopping state Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 15/16] e1000: introduce unmap() to fix unplug issue Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 16/16] e1000: implement MemoryRegionOps's ref&lock interface Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-25 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 00/16] push mmio dispatch out of big lock Peter Maydell
2012-10-25 16:44   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:07   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 17:13     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-25 18:13       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-25 19:00         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 19:06           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-29 15:24       ` Avi Kivity

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