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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 12/16] e1000: apply fine lock on e1000
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:31:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <508906DC.8090502@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50890002.90701@redhat.com>

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On 2012-10-25 11:01, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 10/24/2012 09:17 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is ugly for many reasons. First of all, it is racy as the register
>>>> content may change while dropping the device lock, no? Then you would
>>>> raise or clear an IRQ spuriously.
>>>>
>>> Device state's intact is protected by busy flag, and will not broken
>>
>> Except that the busy flag concept is broken in itself.
> 
> How do we fix an mmio that ends up mmio'ing back to itself, perhaps
> indirectly?  Note this is broken in mainline too, but in a different way.
> 
> Do we introduce clever locks that can detect deadlocks?

That problem is already addressed (to my understanding) by blocking
nested MMIO in general. The brokenness of the busy flag is that it
prevents concurrent MMIO by dropping requests.

> 
>> I see that we have a all-or-nothing problem here: to address this
>> properly, we need to convert the IRQ path to lock-less (or at least
>> compatible with holding per-device locks) as well.
> 
> There is a transitional path where writing to a register that can cause
> IRQ changes takes both the big lock and the local lock.
> 
> Eventually, though, of course all inner subsystems must be threaded for
> this work to have value.
> 

But that transitional path must not introduce regressions. Opening a
race window between IRQ cause update and event injection is such a
thing, just like dropping concurrent requests on the floor.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-25  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22  9:23 [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 00/16] push mmio dispatch out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 01/16] atomic: introduce atomic operations Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 02/16] qom: apply atomic on object's refcount Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 03/16] hotplug: introduce qdev_unplug_complete() to remove device from views Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 04/16] pci: remove pci device from mem view when unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 05/16] memory: introduce ref, unref interface for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:38   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 11:51     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 11:55       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 11:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:02           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:06             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:15               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:32                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 14:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 15:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 16:09                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  7:29                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-25 16:28                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-26 15:05                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:04         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:12           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:16             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:28               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:40                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 14:37                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 06/16] memory: document ref, unref interface Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 07/16] memory: make mmio dispatch able to be out of biglock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-23 12:12   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:36     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  6:31       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  6:56         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25  8:57           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 08/16] QemuThread: make QemuThread as tls to store extra info Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:30   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22 17:13     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-23  5:58       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23 11:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 11:50         ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-23 11:51           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23 12:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-23 12:27             ` Peter Maydell
2012-11-18 10:02             ` Brad Smith
2012-11-18 16:14               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-11-18 16:15                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 09/16] memory: introduce mmio request pending to anti nested DMA Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:28   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23 12:38   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-24  6:31     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 10/16] memory: introduce lock ops for MemoryRegionOps Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:30   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  5:53     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  8:53       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 11/16] vcpu: push mmio dispatcher out of big lock Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:31   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-22 10:36     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 12/16] e1000: apply fine lock on e1000 Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:37   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  9:04   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-24  6:31     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  7:17       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25  9:01         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25  9:31           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-10-25 16:21             ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 16:39               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 18:48                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-29  5:24                     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-24  7:29     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25 13:34       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 16:23         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 16:41           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:03             ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-29  5:24         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-31  7:03           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 13/16] e1000: add busy flag to anti broken device state Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22 10:40   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  5:52     ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  9:06       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-23  9:07       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-23  9:32         ` liu ping fan
2012-10-23  9:37           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-24  6:36             ` liu ping fan
2012-10-25  8:55               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25  9:00             ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-25  9:04               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-26  3:05                 ` liu ping fan
2012-10-26  3:08                   ` liu ping fan
2012-10-26 10:25                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-29  5:24                       ` liu ping fan
2012-10-29  7:50                         ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 14/16] qdev: introduce stopping state Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 15/16] e1000: introduce unmap() to fix unplug issue Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-22  9:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 16/16] e1000: implement MemoryRegionOps's ref&lock interface Liu Ping Fan
2012-10-25 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [patch v4 00/16] push mmio dispatch out of big lock Peter Maydell
2012-10-25 16:44   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 17:07   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-25 17:13     ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-25 18:13       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-10-25 19:00         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-25 19:06           ` Peter Maydell
2012-10-29 15:24       ` Avi Kivity

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