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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Cc: Andrew Vagin <avagin@parallels.com>,
	mtk.manpages@gmail.com, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, criu@openvz.org,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Andrey Wagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [CRIU] [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals (v2)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:50:03 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511A569B.7050603@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK1hOcNOYRWwrwZEpVza1CTSL_mHEj-Ur577QRnBNkOmdb=Bdw@mail.gmail.com>

>>> Process checkpointing needs to bite the bullet and
>>> create its own API instead.
>>
>> This is bad approach as well. What we should do is come up with a sane
>> API that makes sense without the checkpoint-restore project _when_ _possible_.
> 
> Coming up with a sane API in general isn't easy.

That's what we've put the linux-api@ in Cc for ;)

[snip]

> Compared to this, ptrace-attaching to the process
> and then reading from /proc or issuing a new ptrace request
> looks much cleaner.

Sure it does! Also note, that it also looks much cleaner than the
fancy /proc/pid/checkpoint thing you propose.

> My opinion, of course.

Thanks,
Pavel

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Vagin <avagin-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	criu-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Cyrill Gorcunov
	<gorcunov-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrey Wagin <avagin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexander Viro
	<viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Dave Jones <davej-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney"
	<paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [CRIU] [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals (v2)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:50:03 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511A569B.7050603@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK1hOcNOYRWwrwZEpVza1CTSL_mHEj-Ur577QRnBNkOmdb=Bdw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

>>> Process checkpointing needs to bite the bullet and
>>> create its own API instead.
>>
>> This is bad approach as well. What we should do is come up with a sane
>> API that makes sense without the checkpoint-restore project _when_ _possible_.
> 
> Coming up with a sane API in general isn't easy.

That's what we've put the linux-api@ in Cc for ;)

[snip]

> Compared to this, ptrace-attaching to the process
> and then reading from /proc or issuing a new ptrace request
> looks much cleaner.

Sure it does! Also note, that it also looks much cleaner than the
fancy /proc/pid/checkpoint thing you propose.

> My opinion, of course.

Thanks,
Pavel

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-12 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22 10:15 [PATCH 0/3] signalfd: a kernel interface for dumping pending signals Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15 ` Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] signal: add a helper for dequeuing signals from a specified queue Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15   ` Andrey Vagin
2013-02-05 12:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] signal: add a helper for dequeuing signals from a specified queue (v2) Andrey Vagin
2013-02-05 12:00     ` Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] signalfd: add ability to choose a private or shared queue Andrey Vagin
2013-01-22 10:15   ` Andrey Vagin
2013-02-07 18:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08  0:35     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08  0:35       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08 19:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals Andrey Vagin
2013-01-29 19:03   ` [PATCH 3/3] signalfd: add ability to read siginfo-s without dequeuing signals (v2) Andrey Vagin
     [not found]     ` <CAKgNAkgQA=zK=2ZnytPFU=DH6jr0sja0iy6K+j6c7unheLFniQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-02  7:15       ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-02  7:15         ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-07 17:34     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-07 17:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-07 21:13       ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-07 21:13         ` Andrey Wagin
2013-02-08  0:51         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08 19:10         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08 20:15           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08 20:15             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-09 18:22             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-09 22:53               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-09 22:53                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-10 10:04                 ` [CRIU] " Andrew Vagin
2013-02-10 10:04                   ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11 16:47                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-11 16:47                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 10:07               ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-10 10:07                 ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11  9:29             ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 10:59               ` [CRIU] " Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11 10:59                 ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-11 14:46                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 14:46                   ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 14:53                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-02-11 14:53                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-02-11 17:25                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-11 17:25                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2013-02-12 14:50                       ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2013-02-12 14:50                         ` Pavel Emelyanov
2013-01-23  4:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] signalfd: a kernel interface for dumping pending signals Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-23 11:03   ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 11:03     ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 11:03     ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 12:11     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-23 12:11       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-23 13:03       ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 13:03         ` Andrew Vagin
2013-01-23 13:03         ` Andrew Vagin
2013-02-07 18:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-07 18:20     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-08  0:36     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-02-08  0:36       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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