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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] Documentation/devices.txt: Mark /dev/oldmem obsolete
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 10:35:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51A4EADB.9080703@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369761966.2776.39@driftwood>

On 05/28/2013 10:26 AM, Rob Landley wrote:
>>
>> So, could I just use UNSED to replace OBSOLETE here? Or use
>> "OBSOLETE/UNUSED"?
> 
> Obsolete is fine.
> 
> Obsolete means it was used at some point, and thus reusing it might
> confuse or conflcit with legacy software. Unused could just mean that we
> left a gap for some reason, it doesn't imply it ever was used.
> 
> Explicitly documenting "unused" is kind of silly: all the ones we
> _don't_ document are presumably unused. Obsolete carries with it a very
> mild warning about legacy software, which is presumably why we still
> bother to mention it at all instead of just removing the entry.
> 
> (Then again the point was that nothing ever used this interface in the
> first place. Personally I'd just have removed the entry...)
> 

"Obsolete" in this specific context means that the reservation is
obsolete, but was used in kernels past, therefore the name and number
should not be reused to prevent old software from misbehaving.

	-hpa



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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: "kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] Documentation/devices.txt: Mark /dev/oldmem obsolete
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 10:35:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51A4EADB.9080703@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369761966.2776.39@driftwood>

On 05/28/2013 10:26 AM, Rob Landley wrote:
>>
>> So, could I just use UNSED to replace OBSOLETE here? Or use
>> "OBSOLETE/UNUSED"?
> 
> Obsolete is fine.
> 
> Obsolete means it was used at some point, and thus reusing it might
> confuse or conflcit with legacy software. Unused could just mean that we
> left a gap for some reason, it doesn't imply it ever was used.
> 
> Explicitly documenting "unused" is kind of silly: all the ones we
> _don't_ document are presumably unused. Obsolete carries with it a very
> mild warning about legacy software, which is presumably why we still
> bother to mention it at all instead of just removing the entry.
> 
> (Then again the point was that nothing ever used this interface in the
> first place. Personally I'd just have removed the entry...)
> 

"Obsolete" in this specific context means that the reservation is
obsolete, but was used in kernels past, therefore the name and number
should not be reused to prevent old software from misbehaving.

	-hpa



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-28 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-26  6:31 [PATCH v2 0/7] Remove unused /dev/oldmem interface Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:31 ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:34 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] /dev/oldmem: Remove the interface Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:34   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] Documentation/devices.txt: Mark /dev/oldmem obsolete Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:36   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-27  1:46   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-05-27  1:46     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-05-27  1:54     ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-27  1:54       ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-27  2:16       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-05-27  2:16         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-05-28  6:17       ` Rob Landley
2013-05-28  6:17         ` Rob Landley
2013-05-28  6:25         ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-28  6:25           ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-28 17:26           ` Rob Landley
2013-05-28 17:26             ` Rob Landley
2013-05-28 17:35             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-05-28 17:35               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-28 22:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-05-28 22:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-05-29  7:45     ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-29  7:45       ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt: Remove /dev/oldmem description Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:38   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] mips: Remove savemaxmem parameter setup Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:40   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] powerpc: " Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:42   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:44 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] ia64: Remove setting for saved_max_pfn Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:44   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:45 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] s390: " Zhang Yanfei
2013-05-26  6:45   ` Zhang Yanfei

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