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From: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Jan Willeke <willeke@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/5] vmcore: Introduce remap_oldmem_pfn_range()
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:27:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E49383.9030308@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130715142059.GA23772@redhat.com>

(2013/07/15 23:20), Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 08:05:31PM +0900, HATAYAMA Daisuke wrote:
>
> [..]
>> How about
>>
>> static int mmap_vmcore_fault(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_fault *vmf)
>> {
>> ...
>>          char *buf;
>>          int rc;
>>
>> #ifndef CONFIG_S390
>>          return VM_FAULT_SIGBUS;
>> #endif
>>          page = find_or_create_page(mapping, index, GFP_KERNEL);
>>
>> Considering again, I don't think WARN_ONCE() is good now. The fact that fault occurs on
>> mmap() region indicates some kind of buggy situation occurs on the process. The process
>> should be killed as soon as possible. If user still wants to get crash dump, he should
>> try again in another process.
>
> I don't understand that. Process should be killed only if there was no
> mapping created for the region process is trying to access.
>
> If there is a mapping but we are trying to fault in the actual contents,
> then it is not a problem of process. Process is accessing a region of
> memory which it is supposed to access.
>
> Potential problem here is that remap_pfn_range() did not map everything
> it was expected to so we have to resort on page fault handler to read
> that in. So it is more of a kernel issue and not process issue and for
> that WARN_ONCE() sounds better?
>

On the current design, there's no page faults on memory mapped by remap_pfn_range().
They map a whole range in the current design. If there are page faults, page table of the process
is broken in their some page entries. This indicates the process's bahaviour is affected by
some software/hardware bugs. In theory, process could result in arbitrary behaviour. We cannot
detect the reason and recover the original sane state. The only thing we can do is to kill
the process and drop the possibility of the process to affect other system components and of
system to result in worse situation.

-- 
Thanks.
HATAYAMA, Daisuke


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From: HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Jan Willeke <willeke@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/5] vmcore: Introduce remap_oldmem_pfn_range()
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:27:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E49383.9030308@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130715142059.GA23772@redhat.com>

(2013/07/15 23:20), Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 08:05:31PM +0900, HATAYAMA Daisuke wrote:
>
> [..]
>> How about
>>
>> static int mmap_vmcore_fault(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_fault *vmf)
>> {
>> ...
>>          char *buf;
>>          int rc;
>>
>> #ifndef CONFIG_S390
>>          return VM_FAULT_SIGBUS;
>> #endif
>>          page = find_or_create_page(mapping, index, GFP_KERNEL);
>>
>> Considering again, I don't think WARN_ONCE() is good now. The fact that fault occurs on
>> mmap() region indicates some kind of buggy situation occurs on the process. The process
>> should be killed as soon as possible. If user still wants to get crash dump, he should
>> try again in another process.
>
> I don't understand that. Process should be killed only if there was no
> mapping created for the region process is trying to access.
>
> If there is a mapping but we are trying to fault in the actual contents,
> then it is not a problem of process. Process is accessing a region of
> memory which it is supposed to access.
>
> Potential problem here is that remap_pfn_range() did not map everything
> it was expected to so we have to resort on page fault handler to read
> that in. So it is more of a kernel issue and not process issue and for
> that WARN_ONCE() sounds better?
>

On the current design, there's no page faults on memory mapped by remap_pfn_range().
They map a whole range in the current design. If there are page faults, page table of the process
is broken in their some page entries. This indicates the process's bahaviour is affected by
some software/hardware bugs. In theory, process could result in arbitrary behaviour. We cannot
detect the reason and recover the original sane state. The only thing we can do is to kill
the process and drop the possibility of the process to affect other system components and of
system to result in worse situation.

-- 
Thanks.
HATAYAMA, Daisuke


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-01 19:32 [PATCH v6 0/5] kdump: Allow ELF header creation in new kernel Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32 ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] vmcore: Introduce ELF header in new memory feature Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32   ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-02 15:27   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-02 15:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-01 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] s390/vmcore: Use " Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32   ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-02 16:23   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-02 16:23     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03  7:59     ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03  7:59       ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03 14:15       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03 14:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03 14:39         ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03 14:39           ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03 14:50           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03 14:50             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-01 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] vmcore: Introduce remap_oldmem_pfn_range() Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32   ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-02 15:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-02 15:42     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03 13:59     ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03 13:59       ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-03 14:16       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-03 14:16         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-15 13:44     ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-15 13:44       ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-15 14:27       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-15 14:27         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-16  9:25         ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-16  9:25           ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-16 14:04           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-16 14:04             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-16 15:37             ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-16 15:37               ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-16 15:55               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-16 15:55                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-08  5:32   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-08  5:32     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-08  9:28     ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-08  9:28       ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-08 14:28       ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-08 14:28         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-09  5:49         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-09  5:49           ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-10  8:42           ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-10  8:42             ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-10  9:50             ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-10  9:50               ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-10 11:00               ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-10 11:00                 ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-12 16:02                 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-12 16:02                   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-15  9:21                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2013-07-15  9:21                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2013-07-16  0:51                     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-16  0:51                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-10 14:33               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-10 14:33                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-12 11:05                 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-12 11:05                   ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-15 14:20                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-15 14:20                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-07-16  0:27                     ` HATAYAMA Daisuke [this message]
2013-07-16  0:27                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-16  9:40                       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-16  9:40                         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-09  5:31       ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-09  5:31         ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2013-07-01 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] s390/vmcore: Implement remap_oldmem_pfn_range for s390 Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32   ` Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] s390/vmcore: Use vmcore for zfcpdump Michael Holzheu
2013-07-01 19:32   ` Michael Holzheu

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