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From: Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/13] Adding SPDIF support to kirkwood-i2s
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:06:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51FFA348.2010503@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130805115947.GA9858@sirena.org.uk>

On 08/05/13 13:59, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 11:45:30PM +0200, Sebastian Hesselbarth wrote:
>> On 08/04/2013 09:21 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
>>>                  .name = "S/PDIF1",
>>>                  .stream_name = "IEC958 Playback",
>>>                  .platform_name = "mvebu-audio.1",
>>>                  .cpu_dai_name = "mvebu-audio.1",
>>>                  .codec_dai_name = "dit-hifi",
>>>                  .codec_name = "spdif-dit",
>
>> Not a big deal for DT. I suggest to have a "audio-codecs" property that
>> link CPU DAI to codec(s). One thing, I have noticed is that currently
>> you need to supply both codec_name (or DT node) _and_ codec_dai_name.
>> For that it would be helpful, if ASoC supplies helpers to get the DAI
>> by index and use phandle with args here.
>
> This should follow the same pattern as the other board bindings.

Mark,

looking at e.g. nvidia,tegra-audio-*.txt bindings, I guess you are
proposing to have a new binding for every SoC/codec/board combination?
Also, you should have seen "ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF machine driver", which
is - again - proposing a new binding for fsl with spdif "codec".

You really want me to go the same way or is there any "other board
binding" I should follow?

>> i2s1: audio-controller@b0000 {
>> 	compatible = "marvell,dove-i2s";
>> 	reg = <0xb0000 0x2345>;
>> 	audio-codecs = <&spdif 0>;
>> };
>
> No, things are glued together using the machine driver - again, look at
> how all the other systems work.  The wiring on the board can get
> interesting enough to need a binding of its own, for very simple
> bindings that should just be pointing to a generic driver.

And that is what will be true for almost all codecs we hook up on
Marvell SoCs. The audio controller is very simple with only mute
control available. We need to connect either i2s or spdif or both to
any codec and the codecs output. The codecs is determined by phandle
and the output (codec_dai_name) could be determined by the phandle's
arg, e.g. 0 for the first codec_dai provided.

That will be one machine driver for possibly all Marvell boards, not
what e.g. tegra is doing with one machine driver for each board they
can find. I understand that the exact wiring on each board may get
complicated, but I don't see why a (well thought) binding should not
be able to describe it?

Sebastian

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com (Sebastian Hesselbarth)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC 00/13] Adding SPDIF support to kirkwood-i2s
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:06:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51FFA348.2010503@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130805115947.GA9858@sirena.org.uk>

On 08/05/13 13:59, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 11:45:30PM +0200, Sebastian Hesselbarth wrote:
>> On 08/04/2013 09:21 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
>>>                  .name = "S/PDIF1",
>>>                  .stream_name = "IEC958 Playback",
>>>                  .platform_name = "mvebu-audio.1",
>>>                  .cpu_dai_name = "mvebu-audio.1",
>>>                  .codec_dai_name = "dit-hifi",
>>>                  .codec_name = "spdif-dit",
>
>> Not a big deal for DT. I suggest to have a "audio-codecs" property that
>> link CPU DAI to codec(s). One thing, I have noticed is that currently
>> you need to supply both codec_name (or DT node) _and_ codec_dai_name.
>> For that it would be helpful, if ASoC supplies helpers to get the DAI
>> by index and use phandle with args here.
>
> This should follow the same pattern as the other board bindings.

Mark,

looking at e.g. nvidia,tegra-audio-*.txt bindings, I guess you are
proposing to have a new binding for every SoC/codec/board combination?
Also, you should have seen "ASoC: fsl: Add S/PDIF machine driver", which
is - again - proposing a new binding for fsl with spdif "codec".

You really want me to go the same way or is there any "other board
binding" I should follow?

>> i2s1: audio-controller at b0000 {
>> 	compatible = "marvell,dove-i2s";
>> 	reg = <0xb0000 0x2345>;
>> 	audio-codecs = <&spdif 0>;
>> };
>
> No, things are glued together using the machine driver - again, look at
> how all the other systems work.  The wiring on the board can get
> interesting enough to need a binding of its own, for very simple
> bindings that should just be pointing to a generic driver.

And that is what will be true for almost all codecs we hook up on
Marvell SoCs. The audio controller is very simple with only mute
control available. We need to connect either i2s or spdif or both to
any codec and the codecs output. The codecs is determined by phandle
and the output (codec_dai_name) could be determined by the phandle's
arg, e.g. 0 for the first codec_dai provided.

That will be one machine driver for possibly all Marvell boards, not
what e.g. tegra is doing with one machine driver for each board they
can find. I understand that the exact wiring on each board may get
complicated, but I don't see why a (well thought) binding should not
be able to describe it?

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-05 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-04 19:21 [PATCH RFC 00/13] Adding SPDIF support to kirkwood-i2s Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-04 19:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-04 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC 01/13] ASoC: kirkwood: merge struct kirkwood_dma_priv with struct kirkwood_dma_data Russell King
2013-08-04 19:22   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 14:49   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 14:49     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC 02/13] ASoC: kirkwood: use devm_clk_get() for the external clock Russell King
2013-08-04 19:23   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 16:16   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 16:16     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC 03/13] ASoC: avoid duplicated DAI routes Russell King
2013-08-04 19:24   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 16:18   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 16:18     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC 04/13] ASoC: HACK: avoid creating duplicated widgets Russell King
2013-08-04 19:25   ` Russell King
2013-08-04 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC 05/13] ASoC: kirkwood: provide KIRKWOOD_PLAYCTL_ENABLE_MASK Russell King
2013-08-04 19:26   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 17:03   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 17:03     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:27 ` [PATCH RFC 06/13] ASoC: kirkwood: combine kirkwood-i2s and kirkwood-dma drivers Russell King
2013-08-04 19:27   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 10:13   ` Jean-Francois Moine
2013-08-05 10:13     ` Jean-Francois Moine
2013-08-05 10:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 10:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 17:04   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 17:04     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:28 ` [PATCH RFC 07/13] ASoC: kirkwood: move calculation of max buffer size to kirkwood.h Russell King
2013-08-04 19:28   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 17:07   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 17:07     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 08/13] ASoC: kirkwood: add DAPM widgets for input and output routing Russell King
2013-08-04 19:29   ` Russell King
2013-08-04 19:30 ` [PATCH RFC 09/13] ASoC: kirkwood-openrd: add DAPM links between codec and cpu DAI Russell King
2013-08-04 19:30   ` Russell King
2013-08-04 19:31 ` [PATCH RFC 10/13] ASoC: kirkwood-t5325: " Russell King
2013-08-04 19:31   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 11:27   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 11:27     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 11:33     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 11:33       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 14:40       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 14:40         ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 14:56         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 14:56           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 20:32           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 20:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 22:06             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 22:06               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 23:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 23:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-06 13:32                 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-06 13:32                   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-10 16:11                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-10 16:11                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-10 21:13                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-10 21:13                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12  7:40                       ` Liam Girdwood
2013-08-12  7:40                         ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2013-08-12  8:28                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-12  8:28                           ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-13 14:59                           ` Liam Girdwood
2013-08-13 14:59                             ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2013-08-20 10:25                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 10:25                               ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 11:44                               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 11:44                                 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-20 11:49                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 11:49                                   ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 13:31                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 13:31                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 18:50                                     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-20 18:50                                       ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-20 20:18                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 20:18                                         ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-22 19:22                                         ` Liam Girdwood
2013-08-22 19:22                                           ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2013-08-22 20:16                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-22 20:16                                             ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-23 12:13                                             ` Liam Girdwood
2013-08-23 12:13                                               ` [alsa-devel] " Liam Girdwood
2013-08-23 12:58                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-23 12:58                                                 ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-23 16:58                                                 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-23 16:58                                                   ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-23 17:45                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-23 17:45                                                     ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-28  1:22                                                     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-28  1:22                                                       ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-29 21:12                                                     ` Liam Girdwood
2013-08-30 11:27                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-30 11:27                                                         ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-30 16:10                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-30 16:10                                                           ` [alsa-devel] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-11 12:36                     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-11 12:36                       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:32 ` [PATCH RFC 11/13] ASoC: spdif_transceiver: add output pin widget Russell King
2013-08-04 19:32   ` Russell King
2013-08-05 11:33   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 11:33     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-04 19:33 ` [PATCH RFC 12/13] ASoC: kirkwood: add SPDIF output support Russell King
2013-08-04 19:33   ` Russell King
2013-08-04 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 13/13] ASoC: kirkwood: add IEC958 channel status support Russell King
2013-08-04 19:34   ` Russell King
2013-08-04 21:45 ` [PATCH RFC 00/13] Adding SPDIF support to kirkwood-i2s Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-04 21:45   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05  8:43   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-05  8:43     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-05  8:53     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05  8:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05  9:06       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-05  9:06         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-08-05 11:59   ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 11:59     ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 13:06     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth [this message]
2013-08-05 13:06       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05 14:07       ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 14:07         ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 15:04         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05 15:04           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05 16:59           ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 16:59             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 18:14             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05 18:14               ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-05 18:59               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 18:59                 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 22:47           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 22:47             ` [alsa-devel] " Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 14:10       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-08-05 14:10         ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-08-05 15:03         ` Mark Brown
2013-08-05 15:03           ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-06  0:02         ` Kuninori Morimoto
2013-08-06  0:02           ` [alsa-devel] " Kuninori Morimoto
2013-08-30  7:20           ` Kuninori Morimoto
2013-08-30  7:20             ` [alsa-devel] " Kuninori Morimoto
2013-08-30  8:26             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-08-30  8:26               ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2013-08-30  9:56               ` Mark Brown
2013-08-30  9:56                 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2013-08-05 14:59       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-05 14:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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