From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> To: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>, Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>, Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:04:56 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <53A012C8.7060109@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CANq1E4T3KJZ++=KF2OZ_dd+NvPqg+=4Pw6O7Po3-ZxaaMHPukw@mail.gmail.com> On 06/17/2014 12:01 PM, David Herrmann wrote: >> I don't think this is what potential users expect because mlock requires >> capabilities which are not available to them. >> >> A couple of weeks ago, sealing was to be applied to anonymous shared memory. >> Has this changed? Why should *reading* it trigger OOM? > > The file might have holes, therefore, you'd have to allocate backing > pages. This might hit a soft-limit and fail. To avoid this, use > fallocate() to allocate pages prior to mmap() This does not work because the consuming side does not know how the descriptor was set up if sealing does not imply that. > or mlock() to make the kernel lock them in memory. See above for why that does not work. I think you should eliminate the holes on sealing and report ENOMEM there if necessary. -- Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security Team
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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> To: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>, Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>, Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Tony Battersby <tonyb@cybernetics.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:04:56 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <53A012C8.7060109@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CANq1E4T3KJZ++=KF2OZ_dd+NvPqg+=4Pw6O7Po3-ZxaaMHPukw@mail.gmail.com> On 06/17/2014 12:01 PM, David Herrmann wrote: >> I don't think this is what potential users expect because mlock requires >> capabilities which are not available to them. >> >> A couple of weeks ago, sealing was to be applied to anonymous shared memory. >> Has this changed? Why should *reading* it trigger OOM? > > The file might have holes, therefore, you'd have to allocate backing > pages. This might hit a soft-limit and fail. To avoid this, use > fallocate() to allocate pages prior to mmap() This does not work because the consuming side does not know how the descriptor was set up if sealing does not imply that. > or mlock() to make the kernel lock them in memory. See above for why that does not work. I think you should eliminate the holes on sealing and report ENOMEM there if necessary. -- Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security Team -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-17 10:05 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2014-06-13 10:36 [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mm: allow drivers to prevent new writable mappings David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-09 8:55 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-09 8:55 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:12 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:12 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] shm: add sealing API David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-16 10:06 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-16 10:06 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:17 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:17 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] shm: add memfd_create() syscall David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 12:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-06-13 12:27 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-06-13 12:41 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 12:41 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 14:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-06-13 14:20 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-06-13 16:20 ` John Stultz 2014-06-13 16:20 ` John Stultz 2014-06-13 16:20 ` John Stultz 2014-06-16 4:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-06-16 4:12 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) 2014-07-08 18:39 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-08 18:39 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-15 10:50 ` Jann Horn 2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:29 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:29 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] selftests: add memfd_create() + sealing tests David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-16 10:07 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:31 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:31 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] selftests: add memfd/sealing page-pinning tests David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-16 10:08 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-16 10:08 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:32 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:32 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 6/7] shm: wait for pins to be released when sealing David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-16 10:09 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-16 10:09 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` [RFC v3 7/7] shm: isolate pinned pages when sealing files David Herrmann 2014-06-13 10:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:06 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:06 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:27 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:27 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-07-09 8:57 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-09 8:57 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-19 16:40 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-19 16:40 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] File Sealing & memfd_create() Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:10 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:15 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:15 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:15 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:17 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:17 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:17 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-13 15:33 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:33 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-13 15:33 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 9:54 ` Florian Weimer 2014-06-17 9:54 ` Florian Weimer 2014-06-17 10:01 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 10:01 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 10:01 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 10:04 ` Florian Weimer [this message] 2014-06-17 10:04 ` Florian Weimer 2014-06-17 10:10 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 10:10 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 12:13 ` Florian Weimer 2014-06-17 12:13 ` Florian Weimer 2014-06-17 13:26 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 13:26 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 13:26 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 16:20 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 16:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 16:36 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 16:41 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 16:41 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 16:51 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 16:51 ` David Herrmann 2014-06-17 17:01 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 17:01 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 20:31 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-06-17 20:31 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-06-17 20:31 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-06-17 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-06-17 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski 2014-07-08 16:54 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-08 16:54 ` David Herrmann 2014-07-09 8:53 ` Hugh Dickins 2014-07-09 8:53 ` Hugh Dickins
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